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Originally Posted by Roaches View Post

Best looking radeon card this gen. Looking forward to load temp results

Just ran a quick test of 10 runs in Metro LL bench, everything maxed. Not thrilled with the result tbh. Ambient is 21.5c.



77c vrm1 temp mad.gif

Oh btw Elpida ram. ASIC 70%.

On the plus side visual quality was flawless. May not be a high bar at stock but my 280x Vapor X gave me artifacts on this bench even at stock.

Was glancing at power draw on my Belkin Conserve Insight (measures at wall), the card at stock with 4670k @ 4.6 1.25v draws 360-385w.
Edited by taem - 2/15/14 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

Overheat VRM can leads to throttling while overheat VRAM can leads to black screen.


Does any1 know if there's an overheat protection on VRM? Does throttling only occur on high core temp or also VRM?
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Originally Posted by kizwan View Post

Overheat VRM can leads to throttling while overheat VRAM can leads to black screen.


Does any1 know if there's an overheat protection on VRM? Does throttling only occur on high core temp or also VRM?

that's probably what mine was doing, but yea I think it usually throttles if the VRMs start to heat too much, and would likely cut off (blackscreen) if left too hot for too long...
   
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that's probably what mine was doing, but yea I think it usually throttles if the VRMs start to heat too much, and would likely cut off (blackscreen) if left too hot for too long...

Then that could be the reason my reference R9 290X was blackscreening I guess. When I look at my Tri-X, when the core is around 80 C when overclocked, the VRM1 is going 90+C.

My reference was doing stock at about 90 C on core, so probably the VRM1 was doing 100+C.
I never checked my VRM temps on that card, too bad...

Edited: Underclocking the memory made it more stable, and that's because VRM would heat up less right?
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Edited by Mercy4You - 2/15/14 at 1:26am
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The memory is powered by a different set of VRMs (VRM2) so reducing the memory clock isn't likely doing anything for your VRM temps (plus it's still the same voltage).
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Yay, NCIX isn't taking as long as I thought they would. I really want this card now, I'm really impatient if you haven't guessed already. I just have to wait for shipping now.
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This was my gpu usage in furmark http://piclair.com/husar Noticed it was dropping to 0% on and off, RMA needed? or drivers/program messing? nvm in 3dmark it seems fine
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The memory is powered by a different set of VRMs (VRM2) so reducing the memory clock isn't likely doing anything for your VRM temps (plus it's still the same voltage).

Well, I wasn't totally sure about more stability by reducing memory clocks, but I tried about everything to get the damn thing not to blackscreen rolleyes.gif
What I still don't get is that AMD declared that 95 C on core (and 100+ C on VRM) would be absolutely fine...

Why are we all here trying to lower our temps than? Is that because we know that not all parts can handle that temps very well, despite of what AMD is trying to let us believe?

BTW: What's the function of VRM1?
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Edited by Mercy4You - 2/15/14 at 2:17am
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Edited: Underclocking the memory made it more stable, and that's because VRM would heat up less right?
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The memory is powered by a different set of VRMs (VRM2) so reducing the memory clock isn't likely doing anything for your VRM temps (plus it's still the same voltage).

it would and wouldn't, higher clocks will pull more power but I doubt it would be enough to change the RAM VRM behavior, only usually the main VRMs you have to worry about, but at the same time the RAM VRMs would be collecting heat due to the heat off the rest of the hardware so they can still overheat fairly easily.

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Well, I wasn't totally sure about more stability by reducing memory clocks, but I tried about everything to get the damn thing not to blackscreen rolleyes.gif
What I still don't get is that AMD declared that 95 C on core (and 100+ C on VRM) would be absolutely fine...

Why are we all here trying to lower our temps than? Is that because we know that not all parts can handle that temps very well, despite of what AMD is trying to let us believe?

BTW: What's the function of VRM1?
.

the temps at stock are fine really, but when overclocking you want your hardware as cool as possible for the best results, even a few degrees can mean better regulation, less droop and better clocks, though at the same time the shear size of these chips means if you dropped the temp to <40C instead of 95C you would actually loose some 20W or more of your power draw, while running higher clocks, here's an example;
http://www.legitreviews.com/nzxt-kraken-g10-gpu-water-cooler-review-on-an-amd-radeon-r9-290x_130344/4
(pretty sure I or someone else already posed it somewhere)
   
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@ Kizwan the advantages is that you might be able to overclock the card a little further using a different bios than stock...also its a free overclock 1000mhz core 1300mhz mem vs the stock 947mhz core 1250 mem
Flashed my cards with Sapphire 290 TRI-X OC VBIOS just now. thumb.gif



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The memory is powered by a different set of VRMs (VRM2) so reducing the memory clock isn't likely doing anything for your VRM temps (plus it's still the same voltage).
Voltage will be the same but current draw will be less, power consumption will be less & heat output will be less. This will definitely helps lower VRM2 temp. Also we know core voltage also helps memory overclocking. So it will helps lower VRM1 temps too.
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This was my gpu usage in furmark http://piclair.com/husar Noticed it was dropping to 0% on and off, RMA needed? or drivers/program messing? nvm in 3dmark it seems fine
Don't worry with GPU usage. They doesn't reflect the cards actual performance at all.

You can try swap the cards; second GPU to first slot & first GPU to second slot, see whether it even out the GPU usage for both cards.
Edited by kizwan - 2/15/14 at 2:46am
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