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I have tried everything with these cards. It really disappoints me to say it but my last cards were Nvidia and my next ones will be Nvidia no matter the price difference.

2x MSI R9290 on water running at 42deg and pretty much every game I have gives me less frames in Crossfire then with a single card. In Valley they almost double their performance from a single card yet every game I play either won't run Crossfire at all, crashes or gets several frames lower than running just a single card.

I'm stumped and disappointed frown.gif.
The drivers are stil very immature for these cards in xfire but they have enormous grunt that's what really impresses me yessir.gif
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last cards were Nvdia? you sure you cleared all traces of those drivers? what cpu and oc? and what driver are you currently using?

Fresh windows install. 2500k @ 4.7ghz. 13.12 Driver.

I'm hoping my issues are largely driver related. Single card performance is great. The problem is Valley gets great frames over a single card, almost double but all my games suck with quite a few having to disable Crossfire to even get them playable.
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Originally Posted by Monkeysphere View Post

I have tried everything with these cards. It really disappoints me to say it but my last cards were Nvidia and my next ones will be Nvidia no matter the price difference.

2x MSI R9290 on water running at 42deg and pretty much every game I have gives me less frames in Crossfire then with a single card. In Valley they almost double their performance from a single card yet every game I play either won't run Crossfire at all, crashes or gets several frames lower than running just a single card.

I'm stumped and disappointed frown.gif.

If youre playing nvidia optimized games. Yes expect that. Its a dirty trick by nvidia. Amd is so slow in optimizing their drivers for nvidia optimized games.
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Fresh windows install. 2500k @ 4.7ghz. 13.12 Driver.

I'm hoping my issues are largely driver related. Single card performance is great. The problem is Valley gets great frames over a single card, almost double but all my games suck with quite a few having to disable Crossfire to even get them playable.

there are games that really do not benefit in crossfire. others like BF3, BF4, and C3 do. when i had crossfired 7950/7970 my i7 at 4.5HT off (basically an i5) was pegged at 100% usage in BF3 MP 64. during huge explosions i saw my system lagged. those 2 are a bit faster than a single 290 and i can even play with HT off in these same games.

check your cpu usage. a 290 is about as fast as a Titan clock for clock. you are driving basically 2 Titans with an i5.
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there are games that really do not benefit in crossfire. others like BF3, BF4, and C3 do. when i had crossfired 7950/7970 my i7 at 4.5HT off (basically an i5) was pegged at 100% usage in BF3 MP 64. during huge explosions i saw my system lagged. those 2 are a bit faster than a single 290 and i can even play with HT off in these same games.

check your cpu usage. a 290 is about as fast as a Titan clock for clock. you are driving basically 2 Titans with an i5.

CPU usage is fine, about 80-90% across all 4 cores in BF4 64 MP. A single 290 runs BF4 at about 60fps and when I enable Crossfire I drop to about 50fps. Not a CPU issue. Also no reason to be going down in frames with Crossfire enabled and an AMD optimized game at that.

Also not a PCIE or RAM bottleneck issue since Valley benches just fine. All benchmarks in fact are great. In game performance however is disappointing.

The nice thing I suppose is that 1 card gets me by at 2560x1440 so I have some time for drivers to maybe improve the situation.
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CPU usage is fine, about 80-90% across all 4 cores in BF4 64 MP. A single 290 runs BF4 at about 60fps and when I enable Crossfire I drop to about 50fps. Not a CPU issue. Also no reason to be going down in frames with Crossfire enabled and an AMD optimized game at that.

Also not a PCIE or RAM bottleneck issue since Valley benches just fine. All benchmarks in fact are great. In game performance however is disappointing.

The nice thing I suppose is that 1 card gets me by at 2560x1440 so I have some time for drivers to maybe improve the situation.

what driver? we have members here playing the same game using similar setup just fine.

checkout my usage in BF4 MP 64 with HT off and on . . .



it could be very well be driver.
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Asus R9 290 DCU II crossfire. Stock clocks. The top cards can hit 94°C on stock clocks so no OCing on air. If you're planning on running these cards in crossfire I would seriously suggest against it unless you are putting them under water. The heat is too much.

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Asus R9 290 DCU II crossfire. Stock clocks. The top cards can hit 94°C on stock clocks so no OCing on air. If you're planning on running these cards in crossfire I would seriously suggest against it unless you are putting them under water. The heat is too much.

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that, too. one card temps could be getting up there. some benches, though, like Valley - the cpu does not make much of a difference compared to some games. Benchmarks like 3DMarks behave like some games where the overall score depend on both cpu and gpu(s).
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what driver? we have members here playing the same game using similar setup just fine.

checkout my usage in BF4 MP 64 with HT off and on . . .

it could be very well be driver.

Using 13.12 driver. Tried reinstalling plenty of times.
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Using 13.12 driver. Tried reinstalling plenty of times.

from amd to another amd card I normally just use the driver itself to uninstall previous version. you may have to use this in SAFE mode . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1461011/ddu-version-11-0-rc1-released-for-testing

not sure if that is the latest version. try 13.11 driver and make sure your temps are all below 80C (core and VRMS).

13.12 is fine but raised my vcore a bit as well as my temp. could be just my card.
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