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I noticed the same thing last night. The log file was about 0.04V less than the display.

A closer look at my file and the difference is indeed 0.045V...
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anyone know how to determine if a 290 (non-x) card have Hynix memory before buying?

You can look at a professional review of a card on any number of websites; TechpowerUP, HardwareCanucks, TomsHardware, Guru3D, AnandTech, etc. See what RAM chips were observed in their studies of the GPU. Then cross your fingers and toes, and hope that they didn't run out of Hynix RAM when the card was manufactured. biggrin.gif

Buy one at a local retailer, use Hawaii Info to see if it has Hynix or Elpida. Test the card and see how it clocks, even though most cards with Elpida don't clock that well, it's not ALL of them. If it doesn't do well return/exchange.

I bought a XFX 7950 DD from NewEgg once upon a time, and returned it because it was hardware voltage locked and it had extremely poor OC ability. They said they were going to charge me a restock fee, but didn't. So, it only cost me return shipping.

Buy one on eBay or CraigsList that has already been examined.
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Hello everyone, I've managed to get hold of a msi reference 290 non X for a very good price, second hand with invoices from scan. Once I sell my current DCUII 7970 the upgrade should only cost about £30-40. Is there anything I should be aware of before using this card ? Any issues cropping up with them? My 7970 has been great should I expect the same from this card or more issues ( drivers, reliability) ? And is there anything I should I.e. modding to keep temps down or gain more performance ?

Thanks

got one here. bought at launch. mine can bench at 1175/1500 without voltage tweaks just max the power limit using Trixx. leave mine stock 7/24. you have to watercool reference or use aftermarket coolers.

sticking to 13,11 'cause 13.12 raised my vcore a bit and so my temps. i have zero issues with mine even with elpida vram.
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gpu-z now shows memeory manufacturer as well
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I think your hash rate is too low for 20 intensity, don't think it should be so much lower than my Sapphire R9 290X 4GB TRI-X OC.
Did you try to increase the memory Mhz? I had the same results like you before I increased the memory to 1500 MHz.

I have two cards set not in crossfire for mining so I can do other work on my PC when mining. The top card set at I-14 gets 657 Kh/s the bottom card set I-20 gets 976 Kh/s

I kept increasing the memory by 50 MHz and every time the hash rate increased up to 1500 MHz memory. After that any memory increase was actually decreasing the hash rate
I also increased the power limit +30 and voltage +25 mV to avoid artifacts and occasional blackscreen.

Off course with 2 cards the temps are much higher, top card 81C bottom card 78C after many hours running and ambient temp 25C. Fan speed 70% custom set auto profile.

My card isn't a 290X. It's a 290 with Elpida which is unbelievably ****ty at any other clock other than 1250mhz. Normal hash rates for 290s with Hynix is around 870ish so I'm not far off by any means. Maybe one can dip into the 900s with "The Stilt" bios. I'll get to try that later.
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Hello everyone, I've managed to get hold of a msi reference 290 non X for a very good price, second hand with invoices from scan. Once I sell my current DCUII 7970 the upgrade should only cost about £30-40. Is there anything I should be aware of before using this card ? Any issues cropping up with them? My 7970 has been great should I expect the same from this card or more issues ( drivers, reliability) ? And is there anything I should I.e. modding to keep temps down or gain more performance ?

Thanks

I have had great luck so far with my XFX R9 290 Black Edition. Great overclocker, stable, crushing benches and games. Drivers are stable thus far from my experience. Your biggest hurdle will be that reference blower if you plan to get the full potential out of your purhcase!

Reference cooler does a pretty awful job of cooling the card quietly.

They are capable of cooling the card even under high overclocks, but the sound is quite outrageous. I pushed my XFX 290 BE, with the stock blower, to 1215/1650 with the fan cranked up to 75%. The card maxed at 88C and never throttled. It also kept the VRMs cool enough to sustain these clocks and bench/test very well; never broke 79C on VRM1.

I haven't seen any information for what changing TIM and/or thermal pads can do on a reference cooler...it may help, but the bottom line is the reference blower is inadequate; especially if you plan to OC.

Your best bet with these cards is upgrading the cooling solution and make sure you keep the main VRMs cool. Main VRMs are highlighted in yellow and secondary VRMs circled in orange.



You have a couple options...

Full cover waterblock if you are setup for water cooling already. Best solution for cooling everything on the card cool, especially the main VRMs.

Upgraded air cooler
Two most popular I've seen are the Arctic Accelero Extreme III and the Gelid Icy VIsion.

[*]
Arctic Accelero Extreme III
Arctic is currently sold out at NewEgg because of its popularity and capability to tame these cards and overclock them. The kit includes heatsinks for RAM and VRMs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186068
To give you an idea of how well the Arctic works here's a link:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/r9-290-accelero-xtreme-290,3671-4.html


[*] Gelid Icy Vision
Is in stock and a bit cheaper. Several reviews stating it works well. The kit includes heatsinks for RAM and VRMs
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835426026
One of our own has installation instructions and results from this cooler.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1437634/installation-guide-tips-of-rev-2-icy-vision-on-r9-290x


Attach an AIO CPU water cooler. Will do a fantastic job of cooling the GPU, but you will need to attach heatsinks to RAM and VRMs. You have a couple options here as well.

  • Arctic Accelero Hybrid which is the most expensive of the lot, if you can find one as it seems they may be discontinued. They are listed as compatible with the 290(X). These have a built in fan to assist in cooling the RAM and VRMs. The kit includes the heatsinks for RAM and VRMs
    http://www.arctic.ac/us_en/products/cooling/vga/accelero-hybrid.html
  • NZXT Kraken G10 This is a bracket designed to attach the Asetek style AIO coolers to the card. It also has a fan holder on it to assist in cooling the RAM and VRMs. I believe these are still on backorder because of there high demand and stylish looks thumb.gif
    You must purchase heatsinks for RAM and VRMs
    https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/138-kraken-g10-gpu-bracket.html
    Asetek AIO coolers are the round ones like this. You can also see a compatibility list on NZXT website.

  • KeplerDynamics AIO adapter bracket. This bracket is compatible with the Asetek coolers as well. Downside is there is no fan attachment. You will still need to attach heatsinks to RAM and VRMs and then make sure you have sufficient air flow over the heatsinks/card.
    Orders from here can sometimes take a little while. A friend of mine ordered a few for his 7970 miner cards and it took several weeks for them to arrive. He is very happy with the results though thumb.gif
    http://keplerdynamics.com/sigmacool/radeonmkii

Heatisnks for RAM and VRMs
You will require two sizes. Larger for RAM and smaller for VRMs.
  • Enzotech copper sinks
My brother has these on his Xfire 7950's that have AIO coolers on them.
Larger Sinks for RAM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708012
Smaller Sinks for VRMs - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835708011

  • Akust RAM Sinks
Aluminum - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3TR18A6835
Copper - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3TR18A6835
You would require more than one package of the copper as there are 16 RAM chips

  • Ebay Heatsinks
Here is one example, there are many more you can choose from if you search for RAM heatsink. The prices are very low on eBay and I have seen people mention them working well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8pcs-Aluminium-Heatsink-For-Motherboard-DDR-VGA-RAM-Memory-IC-Chipset-Cooler-W-/370655913100?pt=US_Memory_Chipset_Cooling&hash=item564cd0648c
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I may have a used accelero extreme III available for sale shortly. What's a used one worth?
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Heres the highest clock ive pulled outta 290 1345@1500@1.5v....... and W/R for single 290 / MK 11 P on HWBOT





http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7725420 graduated.gif

Nice score thumb.gif

I've got you beat on graphics score...damn your 6-core CPU! biggrin.gif

XFX BE 290 @ 1260/1725
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7991063
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Can anybody tell me exactly how much thermal pad is needed of each thickness for full coverage on a ref 290x (Specifically for AC Kryographics Blocks with Passive Backplate)

The Kryographics blocks use the least thermal padding of all waterblocks: only for the VRM's. The VRAM is cooled by direct contact with the machined copper/nickel, so there only some TIM.

Officially, the padding is 0,5mm thick, but if the padding you're getting is more pliable than the stock ones, 1mm is also good.

I've got some Phobya 7w/mk and it does the job very nicely.
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Thanx for the reply +1

 

I was gonna order the Fujipoly Ultra Extreme since that's what everybody seems to recommend. I noticed that the instructions for the block only recommended TIM on the ram and not pads, but wasn't sure if pads would help. I'm stuck with a BSOD Elpida so trying to get as much out of it as possible. I figured Fujipoly would be better than the strip that's in the package, but might not order it now if i don't need it for the ram at all. 

    
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4930k Rampage IV Black Edition w/EK Clean CSQ Block PowerColor 290x BF4 (2 More Coming) G Skill Trident X 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Silverstone Slotload Bluray Burner EK Supremacy Clean CSQ Alphacool XT45 360 XSPC EX360 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool ST30 240 3 x Phobya NB E-Loops (1600RPM) Alphacool UT60 120 (White Edition) 7 x Gentle Typhoon AP-00 (2150) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
3 x Gentle Typhoon AP-15 6 x Phobya G1/4 Inline Temp Sensor Coupler (2 P... Aquacomputer G1/4 High Flow Meter Swiftech MCP35x 
CoolingOSPowerCase
XSPC Photon 170 Reservoir Windows 7 + Linux Antec HCP-1300 Platinum CoolerMaster HAF XB (Modded) 
OtherOtherOtherOther
Silverstone FP58 Thermaltake Max 5 Duo Phobya 6 x 16mm Vandal Switch Plate  6 x 16mm Vandal Switches (ModSmart & Lamptron) 
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