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So I purchased a Tri-X 290x from Tigerdirect for 649.99 today. Just wondering though if I purchase an XFX 290 and unlock it to a 290x, would it work in X-fire with the Sapphire? Unlocking it does technically make it a 290x right?
 
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So I purchased a Tri-X 290x from Tigerdirect for 649.99 today. Just wondering though if I purchase an XFX 290 and unlock it to a 290x, would it work in X-fire with the Sapphire? Unlocking it does technically make it a 290x right?

it would work in crossfire regardless, and no, a 290X BIOS doesn't actually unlock the shaders UNLESS you are actually LUCKY enough to get a true 290X flashed with a 290 BIOS, no idea how many are left out there, if any...
   
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it would work in crossfire regardless, and no, a 290X BIOS doesn't actually unlock the shaders UNLESS you are actually LUCKY enough to get a true 290X flashed with a 290 BIOS, no idea how many are left out there, if any...

Right, I forgot that with xfire you can run both of the cards as essentially 290s. From reading the unlock thread on here it seems like there are still some XfX 290s floating around that can unlock.
 
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Thanx for the reply +1

I was gonna order the Fujipoly Ultra Extreme since that's what everybody seems to recommend. I noticed that the instructions for the block only recommended TIM on the ram and not pads, but wasn't sure if pads would help. I'm stuck with a BSOD Elpida so trying to get as much out of it as possible. I figured Fujipoly would be better than the strip that's in the package, but might not order it now if i don't need it for the ram at all.
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You two need to tell me all about your findings . Got it ninja.gif
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So when you going to slap those new pads on? I'm anxious to see your results as my pads won't be arriving for a few days yet.
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It may be the bolded part. I thought one of the knocks on the XSPC blocks was that they had a somewhat smaller VRM cooling channel than the EKs do.
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Waiting on the Fujipoly from the UPS man any day this week.
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Just to make sure my eyes working properly. Fujipoly 11W/mK is $7.49 while Fujipoly 17W/mK is $25.99 at FrozenCPU. Why huge difference? Is this always like this? If I go with 11W/mK, do I still get huge improvement in VRM1 temp?
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Geez those are expensive. Is there not any that are pretty good but easier on the wallet?
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i am only cooling one 290. my vrm1 is about 3C cooler than vrm2 and about 5C cooler than the core. i used CLU for the core and Fujipoly for the vrms.
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I think it's called FujiPoly Extreme. They have 3 different varieties, Ultra Extreme is the best and Extreme is number 2.
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So knowing all this, I only need to purchase one Fujipoly Extreme System Builder Thermal Pad - 1/4 Sheet - 150 x 100 x 1.0mm - Thermal Conductivity 11.0 W/mK , which I just did by the way for $22.99 from FrozenCPU. With shipping and entering the OCN 5% savings code it came to $29.81.

You just saved me some money since I was about to buy 2 x 1mm and 2 x 0.5 mm sheets (thinking I'd also have to cover the VRAM) and now knowing this, I can get by with one 1mm sheet which will do both cards nicely.

Upgraded thermal pads on XSPC Razor Block

Alright so I have installed the Fujipoly Ultra Extreme 17.0 W/mk pads on both VRM1 and VRM2. I have also installed the Fujipoly Extreme 11.0 W/mk on the RAM chips.

I did not use any TIM to assist in thermal conductivity on the pads. Chiknnwatrmln also did not use any TIM with his EK block. With the Ultra Extreme he is seeing roughly 20C lower temps on VRM1. So I am doing this write up to see what kind of a difference there is going from stock XSPC pads to FUE, and to see which block does a better job cooling VRM1.

Here's what it looked like with stock pads.



I ordered the FUE in 15x100 for the VRMs and FE in the 150x100 for the RAM chips.

The 150x100 is enough to probably do 3 whole cards with a little extra left over. If you wanted to get better than stock results and not spend $60 for both types you could easily get away with one of these.


The 15x100 FUE is more than enough to do the VRMs on these cards. If you cut them thin enough you might have enough to do 3 cards.

I examined the stock pad contact and found some spots that weren't being 100% covered.



I took the XSPC stock pads off and laid them on the Fujipoly to use them as a template and enlarged as needed.







My awesome Husky 'titanium' coated scissors worked marvelously to cut both versions of the pads.



Minimal trimming was needed to make all pieces fit on RAM really nice.





At this point I thought it would nice for everyone else to have a template of their own, so I put the pads on my scanner biggrin.gif
R9290XThermalPadTemplate.jpg 1077k .jpg file
R9290XThermalPadTemplate.pdf 1055k .pdf file
Either should print on a whole sheet of 8.5x11 paper so they are the correct size. I would imagine these would work on other blocks aside from XSPC, but that will be up to others to explore.

Time to clean the VRMs and RAM chips

I chose to use Arcticlean TIM remover/purifier as I figured it could easily remove the residue from the other pads. Chiknnwatrmln suggested Isopropyl Alcohol or a Pencil Eraser.


Time to lay the pads onto the card.

One more cut was required when I got to this point. I did not want to pick up the Fujipoly Extreme after it was on the card as it felt somewhat fragile. I ended up taking a precision flat head screwdriver to cut the pad where I needed. It required very little force to cut through the FE.



Tada!


A few miscellaneous pointers before I end this rant...

Wash your hands before handling these. The less oil from your skin the better; you could even wear gloves I suppose.

The Fujipoly Ultra Extreme has thinner more pliable plastic on both sides, it is easy to remove from both sides.

The Fujipoly Extreme is like all other thermal pads I have used in the past. One side is thin, pliable, has a checkered pattern, and is easy to remove. The other side has a thicker, harder, clear plastic and is more difficult to remove. Take the hard plastic off first so you don't struggle removing it and touch the pads more than necessary.



Temperature results coming shortly biggrin.gif
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Great post, +1

I usually cut the pads to fit individual memory chips. While this takes time, it saves on a lot of expensive pads that eventually can't be reused. These are easy to tear but easy to re-join as well.
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Yeah man good post. Got my sheet of Fujipoly on the way to put on my two 290s.
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Looking forward to your temp results. If it's as good as 20c drops on vrm 1 I will definitely consider going the fujipoly route/
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If it helps, I have sold Fujipoly Extreme pads to other R9-290x owners along with the EK blocks and they said they have noticed an average of 10 C on the VRMs with these pads compared to the stock EK pads. Right now, I have them on my 780 Ti KPEs and so far so good- I can't compare them against anything but I am pretty happy.
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Dude, that's a serious waste of Fujis. You're not supposed to cut out using the block as a template. XSPC does it that way because they use cheap ass pads so the waste is nothing and the time saved by wasting pad material is worth it.


People, use the memory chips and vrm chips as a template. You will make your Fuji sheets last a lot longer this way. The Fuji pads DO NOT LAST LONG so don't waste them. Once mounted and heat cured, they will not come off the card easily. Most often the crack when someone tries to take them off. And you don't have to put TIM on them either. That said, I hate using TIM anyways because it often stains the memory chips leaving behind absolute proof you put a block on it which is very important if you have a non-friendly warranty.
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It's not that bad, if you are patient you can shape most of the torn pads together and reuse them. But I agree on cutting for each chip separately and not using any TIM.
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