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Thought you might be happy about that tongue.gif

EDIT: So a few weeks time sounds about mid-late March then.
Another guy got an email from them saying late march early April, but they were shooting for late march.
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I hope the card releases at a fair price but I realize there is a great chance this is going to run at stock clocks, undervolted in a mining rig as well.
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Any news for wc blocks for the lightnings?


EK will probably make one for it, but nothing on their website about it yet.

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Tiborr and Derick had both alluded to it, but the Asus 290x DCUII is still not out yet so I wouldn't hold my breadth.
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temperatures decreased:

VRM1 23.25% VRM2 12.15%[/SIZE][/B]

Excellent results man, thanks for sharing! Hopefully I can get even half that result on the core with the TIM change!

In other news, EK have confirmed the DCU II waterblock will fit both the 290x and non X version and should be out in about 4 weeks!
Edited by Brian18741 - 2/20/14 at 8:04am
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My Powercolor PCS+ 290 is a little screamer! 1200 core, 1500 mem, 4670k @ 4.6
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Ranks at 3dmark for 4670k + single 290, valid driver:
#16 for 3dmark11
#6 for fire strike
#18 for fire strike extreme
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Valley ExtremeHD & Heaven Extreme:


Temps are pretty awesome too, here after 50 loop of Metro LL bench maxed settings, ambient 22-23:
Stock: 65c core, 74c vrm1, 49c vrm2
OC 1200 core/1500 mem: 67c core, 85c vrm1, 49c vrm2


Vrm1 at 85c at oc clocks may seem high but I've yet to find a game that gets me temps as high as MetroLL bench maxed on loop. Gaming vrm1 temp is much lower.
For 3dmark 11 (P):-
- #71 overall
- #19 for single card
- #39 for dual/crossfire
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I've been thinking this for a while.. why the VRAM is rated to work @ 1500Mhz 1.5V (6Ghz effective) on all R9 290's? Is there some reason why they are downclocked.. and are there any ways to control the memory voltage? 384 GB/s 100% stable memory would be awesome though.
Probably the memory voltage only set to 1.35V but I could be wrong because we can do 1500MHz OC easy & stable too.
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Temperature Results from Fujipoly Ultra Extreme on VRMs

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Screenshot of VRM temps with FUE for 3DMark11 Performance Presets 1295/1700 +200mV



All observed temperatures before and after using same settings before and after thermal pad switch

On average for 3DMark11 Performance/Xtreme Presets, Unigine Heaven/Valley Extreme Presets, and FFXIV Benchmark Maximum Settings, temperatures decreased:

VRM1 23.25% VRM2 12.15%
Thanks. That is good result. VRM1 able to maintain in the 50s with FUE vs. 80s with stock pad.

I didn't get 17 W/mK but I got 11 W/mK instead. For the amount I paid for the shipping, it still circulating around NY for 4 days. redface.gif I don't know how many sorting facility they need to go through. mad.gif

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Upgraded thermal pads on XSPC Razor Block

Alright so I have installed the Fujipoly Ultra Extreme 17.0 W/mk pads on both VRM1 and VRM2. I have also installed the Fujipoly Extreme 11.0 W/mk on the RAM chips.

I did not use any TIM to assist in thermal conductivity on the pads. Chiknnwatrmln also did not use any TIM with his EK block. With the Ultra Extreme he is seeing roughly 20C lower temps on VRM1. So I am doing this write up to see what kind of a difference there is going from stock XSPC pads to FUE, and to see which block does a better job cooling VRM1.

Here's what it looked like with stock pads.



I ordered the FUE in 15x100 for the VRMs and FE in the 150x100 for the RAM chips.

The 150x100 is enough to probably do 3 whole cards with a little extra left over. If you wanted to get better than stock results and not spend $60 for both types you could easily get away with one of these.


The 15x100 FUE is more than enough to do the VRMs on these cards. If you cut them thin enough you might have enough to do 3 cards.

I examined the stock pad contact and found some spots that weren't being 100% covered.



I took the XSPC stock pads off and laid them on the Fujipoly to use them as a template and enlarged as needed.







My awesome Husky 'titanium' coated scissors worked marvelously to cut both versions of the pads.



Minimal trimming was needed to make all pieces fit on RAM really nice.





At this point I thought it would nice for everyone else to have a template of their own, so I put the pads on my scanner biggrin.gif
R9290XThermalPadTemplate.jpg 1077k .jpg file
R9290XThermalPadTemplate.pdf 1055k .pdf file
Either should print on a whole sheet of 8.5x11 paper so they are the correct size. I would imagine these would work on other blocks aside from XSPC, but that will be up to others to explore.

Time to clean the VRMs and RAM chips

I chose to use Arcticlean TIM remover/purifier as I figured it could easily remove the residue from the other pads. Chiknnwatrmln suggested Isopropyl Alcohol or a Pencil Eraser.


Time to lay the pads onto the card.

One more cut was required when I got to this point. I did not want to pick up the Fujipoly Extreme after it was on the card as it felt somewhat fragile. I ended up taking a precision flat head screwdriver to cut the pad where I needed. It required very little force to cut through the FE.



Tada!


A few miscellaneous pointers before I end this rant...

Wash your hands before handling these. The less oil from your skin the better; you could even wear gloves I suppose.

The Fujipoly Ultra Extreme has thinner more pliable plastic on both sides, it is easy to remove from both sides.

The Fujipoly Extreme is like all other thermal pads I have used in the past. One side is thin, pliable, has a checkered pattern, and is easy to remove. The other side has a thicker, harder, clear plastic and is more difficult to remove. Take the hard plastic off first so you don't struggle removing it and touch the pads more than necessary.



Temperature results coming shortly biggrin.gif

+rep coming your way for such detailed info, and results in a later post. you've certainly convinced me to drop the cash on some new pads for my 3 blocks.

a few suggestions. since your post will likely be linked and referenced by many, it may be good to mention the pad thickness (I'm assuming 1.0mm across the board) in the opening statement. also, maybe some links to the exact pads you bought could be helpful for those looking for quick reference. biggrin.gif

anyways, great work! thumb.gif
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Update on Xfire Gigabyte 290's Windforce temps:

Bf4 64p Multi seems sweet but 5 passes of Metro last light bench kicks there arse. At stock clocks I get a slight amount of throttling happening on top card - dips about 10-20mhz. Maxes at 84c and doesnt go hotter but VRM1 maxes at 91c so that's definitely getting up there. Now the cards in Xfire will do 1120 on the core with no power % increase or Volts. But the throttle becomes much more noticeable with drops around 900 - 1000 odd mhz and so on.

I'm going to try a nice powerful 120mm fan on the side of the case to see if I can suck as much hot air away as possible (blowing at my feet isnt really going to be enjoyable but I'll deal with it...) and see if that helps temps at all.

HOWEVER - considering I've always run my OC's to the programs I use & play I may increase the OC if the temps stay low in BF4. The goal being the highest core clock I can go without reaching 83c.

If anyone has a pair of these and can offer any tips or tricks send it my way!

I'm on single Powercolor PCS+ card, waiting on 290 Tri-X, but a few thoughts.

When running MetroLL bench as a test, you need more than 5 passes. If I get a problem, it's almost always at pass 8-10, and then again at 15-18. Happens consistently. For throttling, are you sure it's throttling? What oc app you using and what are your settings? Because I had Afterburner set up wrong and clock was fluctuating. You need to have "Extend Official Overclocking Limits" off and "Unofficial Overclocking Mode" set to disabled. I was getting that same thing, clock set to 1200 which I knew was stable but operating at 900-1000. It has to do with Powertune.
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Well, on a nvidia GTX7xx you absolutely don't want Elpida as they barely leave for +100Mhz of OC room...

On my unlocked 290 (XFX) however the Elpida ain't even half bad and runs and clocks just fine.

Btw, does anyone know why my card scales so crappy with voltage? When I use the ASUS BIOS and do +50mV (about 1.12v load) and unlimited power limit it does 1140Mhz core. Not too bad. However, when I go all the way to say, +200mV (1.21v load) it still won't get nowhere near 1200Mhz. Like, 1180Mhz or something is max if that's even stable to begin with..

Now, why would it respond SO bad on voltage??

It's cooled with a Accelero Xtreme III and cut up stock cooler for VRM's.
Temps @ +50mV 1140Mhz core:
Core: ~60c
VRM1: ~72c
VRM2: ~ 54c

Temps @ +200mV 1175Mhz core:
Core: ~70c
VRM1: ~85c, high but well within limits afaik
VRM2: ~ 56c

Yeah I too think clock gains from increased voltage scale very poorly on my 290. So much so that I went back down to stock voltage (Powercolor PCS+ is set to +50mV in bios anyway) and am running 1150 core 1550 clock. It's not worth it going to +100mV just to run 1200 core 1600 mem when the gains are quite small for noticeably higher temps and power draw. Also, I have Elpida and it runs 1600 perfectly.

Your temps are great! Why do some folks bash XFX? They look great, have the best warranty, and look at your temps! I guess my Powercolor with its massive cooler isn't so special lol. Core and vrm2 are actually frosty but vrm1 runs hot, wonder if the heatsink isn't on right. I know vrm1 always runs hottest but it's out of range relative to core and vrm2.
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LOL@ the 290x jumping $350.00 in price this past week!!! 780Ti kills it at 150.00 less!!! AMD must be having some issues with yields to have to do this.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7758/radeon-r9-290x-retail-prices-hit-900
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