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I have disabled sleep and the black screen when not using. I'm using windows 8.1, will I encounter any problems?

shouldn't, I haven't had any problems with ULPS since I started testing 8 beta, I'm on 8.1 now with 13.12 drivers.
   
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Sweet deal! Didn't know there was a Sniper mATX board.

Let us know what happens when you add the second rad. While its apart, the thermal pad upgrade would likely be worth the effort biggrin.gif

What do you mean by the thermal pad upgrade? Did I miss something?

Probably not what you meant, but made me curious.

Is there a thermal pad roundup/comparison?

This is 17 W/m.K, so presumably some pads are better than others.

AMD Thermal Interface Material Comparison: Thermal Pads vs. Thermal Grease

Interesting. Thin Copper with TIM may be more effective than a pad. (unless electrical conductivity is an issue? Pads are dielectric.) I guess you'd anneal (soften by heating) the copper first .... if trying it.
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I had black screen issues with my gygabite. Now i already recognize that this not the software issue but probably the firts batch elpidia memory issue. The solution for me was to downclock mem speed and the i ran valle for three hours without black screen. Now i want compensate the performance loss by overclocking the core. But i dont know how much i can. Voltage, power limit etc. I using afterburner. Thanx.
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Ultra Low Power State, its a state of the card that the core and fans are shut off almost 100% and only ~1W of power is used, but this only activates when the screen turns off and/or in crossfire setups, generally good to turn off as in windows 7 it can cause all sorts of issues.

I have disabled sleep and the black screen when not using. I'm using windows 8.1, will I encounter any problems?

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I have disabled sleep and the black screen when not using. I'm using windows 8.1, will I encounter any problems?

shouldn't, I haven't had any problems with ULPS since I started testing 8 beta, I'm on 8.1 now with 13.12 drivers.
Paul, you have one 290X right? With crossfire, ULPS may effect stability when overclock because it can prevent secondary GPU from overvolting.

An example when GPU's are overclocked with ULPS enabled. GPU2 refused to overvolt.


@IBIubbleTea, if you have one 290/290X, then you don't need to worry with ULPS.
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@IBIubbleTea, if you have one 290/290X, then you don't need to worry about ULPS.

I'd still turn it off. ULPS caused my card to sometimes lock up when the monitor goes to sleep, forcing a reboot to fix it.
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I'd still turn it off. ULPS caused my card to sometimes lock up when the monitor goes to sleep, forcing a reboot to fix it.
I don't have that problem. BTW, when screen goes to sleep, does your 290X fan stop spinning (with ULPS enabled of course)?
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I don't have that problem. BTW, when screen goes to sleep, does your 290X fan stop spinning (with ULPS enabled of course)?

I don't know, it's on water. Maybe that has something to do with it.
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Thanks for the quick answers. Rep+.

Another question, planning on doing a water cooled build, Should I get a EK R9 290x Acetal + copper or nickel? Planning on using distilled water with PT nuke. I heard about changing the thermal pad when applying the water block, What kind of thermal pads should I get and what thickness is needed? What is a good thermal paste I should use, Right now I have AC5 and swiftech tim mate...?
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Thanks for the quick answers. Rep+.

Another question, planning on doing a water cooled build, Should I get a EK R9 290x Acetal + copper or nickel? Planning on using distilled water with PT nuke. I heard about changing the thermal pad when applying the water block, What kind of thermal pads should I get and what thickness is needed? What is a good thermal paste I should use, Right now I have AC5 and swiftech tim mate...?

Unless you are looking for nickel for aesthetics, I'd just get the copper. They seem to have fixed the issues with the nickel flaking, but copper is one less thing to worry about.

The stock EK pads that come with the block are 0.5mm for the VRAM and 1.0mm for the VRM, but if you intend to get Fujipoly you can just get 1.0mm all the way around. Saves ordering two sheets. But you can get good enough performance with the stock pads, unless you really want to push for that last 10 degrees or so (on the VRMs, won't affect the core any). I wouldn't use AS5 (I assume that's what you meant) on the core, either use the Swiftech you have or pick up something like MX-4.
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Try overclock higher. BF4 like multithreading CPU. I think 4 cores CPU @4.2GHz is too low for BF4. 1000W is not the amount of wattage your PSU can pull from the wall but it's the max amount of wattage your PSU can deliver stably to the components. Some PSU can deliver more than what was it rated for. Not all energy will be use, some will be wasted as heat. The actual power consumption will be less than the amount of wattage pulled from the wall.

1380W? Really? It seems too high for two 290's, even with core clock at 1040MHz which I believe at stock voltage. Do you have anything else plugged in other than your PC?
ULPS stand for Ultra Low Power State. It only activated if you have Crossfire, meaning more than one GPU. ULPS put secondary GPU to low power state when not in use (it's like the GPU is turn off or sleep/standby). If you're overclocking, it's recommend to disable ULPS because it can prevent secondary GPU from overvolting which will effect stability.

An example, graph below show GPU2 in crossfire (overclocked) is still running at stock voltage when ULPS is still enabled.

Yeah think I figured it out! Drivers were not loaded correctly as the ULPS stopped a component from loading properly. So fixed that - kept it all at stock speeds and it's working quite well. Going to try and OC my CPU again now..

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