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My 4670k is at 4.7 could that be it?
apparently the CPU has a small impact. Read that somewhere, some benchmark
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Hmm this was odd, was playing thief and it doesnt utilize my 2nd card :S http://piclair.com/6tp9e and my 2nd gpu was at 55C flat while I was playing :<<br />
I'm on 14.2 but havent had any problems or crashes so far.
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I don't know this for certain, but I originally had (2) XFX Black edition cards and both had Hynix; they were only 5 serial numbers apart however.  It's worth letting you know the card I sold to a co-worker had poor RAM OCability even with the Hynix; was only able to get +100 MHz.  It could be possible that XFX uses Hynix for their BE cards...? Worth looking into to see what others have gotten with BE cards?

I have seen a few people with decent OC with Elpida memory, so it wouldn't be the end of the world especially considering the GPU RAM clocks don't play as much of a role in the performance of these beasts with the 512-bit bus. 

This is what I've come to find:

I have an XFX 290 BE with Hynix ram and the OC of the ram is 1500:

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Thanx brotha. It's the Newegg Game-Playing that really has me pissed. They sent me a card that was DOA first. Neither Bios would boot. Then i RMA'd and got this card back with a note on the receipt saying "You have 6 days to rma this card". That's why i'm stuck with manufacturer warranty.



Stren (I think) tested the AC Backplates (Passive/Active)
The Backplate itself showed a HUGE improvement. But the Active vs Passive only showed like 1C improvement. As long as you get the AC Backplate you'll be good. Active or Passive is up to you, the Active doesn't make alot of difference though 

Yes, I read this last night.. Might go with active because it's technically better and looks like it's better. Stren was running overclocked a bit too, I plan to go to the extremes tongue.gif
 
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14.2 beta gives a huge 3dmark11 score compared to 13.12. Same settings, same hardware same OS

+ almost 5000 Graphic score
+ 400 physix score
almost 2000 overall score

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/8032261/3dm11/8001317

Had a quick run BF4 single performance.

With direct 11, it is smoother than mantle.
observed some fps drop / spiking with mantle, overall directx 11 still smoother although not so much difference in fps with BF4

I do observed though that with these driver and with mantle, BF4 uses more the CPU compared to direct11 API +5-10%.

one more thing, RPM sensor still broken frown.gif or not detecting at all GPUZ and AB
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14.2 beta gives a huge 3dmark11 score compared to 13.12. Same settings, same hardware same OS

+ almost 5000 Graphic score
+ 400 physix score
almost 2000 overall score

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/8032261/3dm11/8001317

Had a quick run BF4 single performance.

With direct 11, it is smoother than mantle.
observed some fps drop / spiking with mantle, overall directx 11 still smoother although not so much difference in fps with BF4

I do observed though that with these driver and with mantle, BF4 uses more the CPU compared to direct11 API +5-10%.

one more thing, RPM sensor still broken frown.gif or not detecting at all GPUZ and AB

 

Holy smokes! What a jump in 3dMark11! I think I'm going to have to update and possibly move myself up that Top 30 3DMark ladder, shooting for top 10 if you got a 15% boost in graphics and a 6% boost in physics score.

 

More CPU power...hmm that's going in the opposite direction of what they wanted

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I've started to locate my 'everyday' use clocks/voltages and it's looking like 1200/1500 +100mV offset is going to be where I'm at. Still a 1GHz boost to RAM.

Compared to my maximum overclocks, using up to +200mV, I'm seeing ~96% of the total Core/RAM OC gains. This makes me very happy that I get nearly all of the performance without abusing the card too much with maxed out voltages.

I'm definitely not pushing my card to max due to the voltage issue. This card can actually handle the heat (the Powercolor PCS+ on the 290/X might be the best cooler ever) but the voltage sort of freaks me out. The max I am using is +112 vddc offset. Think that's too high? The clocks are actually stable on everything at +100 but I get this weird glitch where when I boot up, the Windows 8 Start Screen jumps around a bit before stabilizing. At +112 it doesn't do that. Which is odd since at that point Trixx hasn't even loaded -- I have it on a 30 second delay in Task Scheduler because it always loads before CCC and CCC resets the clocks.

I've actually been meaning to start a thread just on this issue of what voltages folks are comfortable with. At +112 vddc offset the max VID is 1.34 or so, but most of the time it runs in the ~1.25 range. But the performance gain is not that huge over my second highest profile which runs +75 vddc. And I could live with my +31 vddc clocks too. Wonder if I should. But then the water cooling guys run insane voltages and while water cooling obviously removes the heat issue, the voltage effect on the card remains the same right?
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apparently the CPU has a small impact. Read that somewhere, some benchmark

Come to think of it I don't know if I ran that bench at stock clocks. I meant to but those numbers seem too high for stock. But, that doesn't account for the difference in minimum fps I don't think, higher clocks don't get you that much improvement, especially with minimum fps.
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Holy smokes! What a jump in 3dMark11! I think I'm going to have to update and possibly move myself up that Top 30 3DMark ladder, shooting for top 10 if you got a 15% boost in graphics and a 6% boost in physics score.

More CPU power...hmm that's going in the opposite direction of what they wanted

yeah tell me about it. I was also really surprised. and I restart my PC re run and result was same. thumb.gif
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I'm definitely not pushing my card to max due to the voltage issue. This card can actually handle the heat (the Powercolor PCS+ on the 290/X might be the best cooler ever) but the voltage sort of freaks me out. The max I am using is +112 vddc offset. Think that's too high? The clocks are actually stable on everything at +100 but I get this weird glitch where when I boot up, the Windows 8 Start Screen jumps around a bit before stabilizing. At +112 it doesn't do that. Which is odd since at that point Trixx hasn't even loaded -- I have it on a 30 second delay in Task Scheduler because it always loads before CCC and CCC resets the clocks.

I've actually been meaning to start a thread just on this issue of what voltages folks are comfortable with. At +112 vddc offset the max VID is 1.34 or so, but most of the time it runs in the ~1.25 range. But the performance gain is not that huge over my second highest profile which runs +75 vddc. And I could live with my +31 vddc clocks too. Wonder if I should. But then the water cooling guys run insane voltages and while water cooling obviously removes the heat issue, the voltage effect on the card remains the same right?

 

Voltage you can push depends on your cooling...if the temperatures are in check then you certainly can do it.

 

I don't have Trixx applying overclocks when Windows boots.  Trixx will open and be in the task bar, but not changing any settings.  Disable overdrive and I don't think it will reset your clocks.

 

Benchmarking and pushing your hardware to the brink is fun, but it's always best IMHO to have settings to use on a regular basis.  I have tried all the benchmarks I have been running with +200mV and the gains are minimal...they are measurable but minimal. 

 

For example you can use my gaming settings and maximum benchmark settings: 1200/1500 +100mV ~compared to~ 1295/1700 +200mV

 

When running at 1200/1500, I'm seeing ~96% of the performance of pushing my GPU to it's absolute maximum.  Is it worth it to add another +100mV for 95MHz core clock?  Not in my opinion, just more wear and tear on the GPU as a whole.

 

Extra voltage effect is lessened when you can keep temperatures under control. Hence the reason lowering the temperature will yield higher clocks, usually.  Same as with a CPU, will they degrade over time with additional voltage in the long haul? Probably.

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yeah tell me about it. I was also really surprised. and I restart my PC re run and result was same. thumb.gif


Just scrubbed and installed 14.2

 

Time to put my benchmarking hat on :helmetsmi

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Corsair Obsidian 350D Corsair Sabre RGB Corsair Vengeance MM600 Logitech Z623 
AudioOther
Corsair Gaming Void RGB Headset Z87 Gryphon Armor Kit 
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Intel Core i5 4250U Intel NUC BOXD54250WYKH1 Intel HD5000 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3L 
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Logitech K400 
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Ryzen R7 1700 ASRock AB350m Pro 4 Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Patriot Viper 4 - 8GB DDR4 3200MHz (PV48G320C6K) 
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Toshiba Q Series 128GB 6TB Toshiba N300 Samsung 4TB External Sandisk X110 256GB M.2  
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Panasonic UJ-265 Slim 6X Blu-ray Writer Cryorig M9 92mm Mini-Tower SilenX Effizio Thermistor Windows 10 Pro 
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Sharp Aquos 60" 120Hz Logitech K800 EVGA 850G2 SuperNova Silverstone GD09B 
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CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
Intel Core i7 4770k Delidded ASUS Z87 Gryphon Power Color RX Vega 64 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
EK FC Vega - Nickel/Plexi Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB 2400 MHz Crucial M500 240Gb Intel 530 240GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 3 128GB XSPC Raystorm XSPC EX240 XSPC EX240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance Compression Fittings Feser Silver Tubing Corsair SP120 High Performance x4 XSPC Dual 5.25" Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Swiftech MCP-655 Yate Loon 20mm Medium Speed x2 Windows 10 Pro LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS Logitech G510 Corsair RX1000X 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Obsidian 350D Corsair Sabre RGB Corsair Vengeance MM600 Logitech Z623 
AudioOther
Corsair Gaming Void RGB Headset Z87 Gryphon Armor Kit 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 4250U Intel NUC BOXD54250WYKH1 Intel HD5000 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3L 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial M500 mSATA Windows 7 Ultimate LG 50" LED 120Hz TV Logitech K400 
Mouse
Logitech K400 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen R7 1700 ASRock AB350m Pro 4 Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Patriot Viper 4 - 8GB DDR4 3200MHz (PV48G320C6K) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba Q Series 128GB 6TB Toshiba N300 Samsung 4TB External Sandisk X110 256GB M.2  
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingOS
Panasonic UJ-265 Slim 6X Blu-ray Writer Cryorig M9 92mm Mini-Tower SilenX Effizio Thermistor Windows 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Sharp Aquos 60" 120Hz Logitech K800 EVGA 850G2 SuperNova Silverstone GD09B 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Logitech G602 Logitech G240 Pioneer Elite VSX-LX101 XBOX One Controller 
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