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i don't mix ab and trixx. i only use trixx to oc and only for benching. i tried it to help you. this is using 14.2, btw. 14.2 works as flawless as 13.11 just not with BF4/mantle in my case.

I highly doubt 14.2 is anywhere NEAR the 13.12 drivers. When i tried 14.1 i had so many issues i had to revert back to 13.12, I think it was the first time in history i had to actually uninstall a new beta driver and go back to the older driver because of issues.

Now i'm sure 14.2 is better than 14.1, but I would not compare it to 13.12 drivers, which are rock solid in everything, yes its missing mantle, but Mantle isn't needed.
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I highly doubt 14.2 is anywhere NEAR the 13.12 drivers. When i tried 14.1 i had so many issues i had to revert back to 13.12, I think it was the first time in history i had to actually uninstall a new beta driver and go back to the older driver because of issues.

Now i'm sure 14.2 is better than 14.1, but I would not compare it to 13.12 drivers, which are rock solid in everything, yes its missing mantle, but Mantle isn't needed.

same here, 14.1 had problems with BF4/mantle. did not try any other game. i tried 14.2 with BF4/DX11 and my other games - works fine.

why don't you try it? btw, i want mantle but i don't need it.

edit: i skipped DDU this time around and just used 14.2 to uninstall 13.11 and installed it after. the way i always used to do it except for 14.1.
Edited by rdr09 - 2/26/14 at 8:13am
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i see no sense in wasting time switching drivers again when everything I play now works fine, and get good performance. I understand some folks have to switch every waking second of the day. I don't have time for that.
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i see no sense in wasting time switching drivers again when everything I play now works fine, and get good performance. I understand some folks have to switch every waking second of the day. I don't have time for that.

i agree if you don't want to help and test the beta with mantle. no one is forcing you.
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I highly doubt 14.2 is anywhere NEAR the 13.12 drivers. When i tried 14.1 i had so many issues i had to revert back to 13.12, I think it was the first time in history i had to actually uninstall a new beta driver and go back to the older driver because of issues.

Now i'm sure 14.2 is better than 14.1, but I would not compare it to 13.12 drivers, which are rock solid in everything, yes its missing mantle, but Mantle isn't needed.

I can only confirm all you said in this post thumb.gif
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i don't mix ab and trixx. i only use trixx to oc and only for benching. i tried it to help you. this is using 14.2, btw. 14.2 works as flawless as 13.11 just not with BF4/mantle in my case.

I highly doubt 14.2 is anywhere NEAR the 13.12 drivers. When i tried 14.1 i had so many issues i had to revert back to 13.12, I think it was the first time in history i had to actually uninstall a new beta driver and go back to the older driver because of issues.

Now i'm sure 14.2 is better than 14.1, but I would not compare it to 13.12 drivers, which are rock solid in everything, yes its missing mantle, but Mantle isn't needed.
Of course you don't need Mantle, you only have one GPU. For people running multi-gpu, they going to need it. Multi-gpu use CPU processing power a lot. Mantle can help that & this will definitely boost performance.
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As my previous post got snowed under, i'll ask again.

I keep getting several issues with my 290X when cold booting and having a OC set in ANY overclocking program.

1. With MSI AB and TriXX the overclock does not apply and resets every reboot even though apply on boot and a saved profile are enabled.
The voltage and power limit however, ARE applied.

Simply clicking the profile again and applying fixes it.

2. Every cold boot i need to reboot at least once to get performance up. Whenever I cold boot, with or without overclock, that doesn't matter, oc programs don't affect this either, performance is extremely low after a cold boot.

Valley will run at 20 ish FPS. Clocks show normal 3d clocks across the board. Usage is 100%. Temps and power usage are MUCH lower then expected however.
This can ONLY be fixed with a full reboot and after that it runs without any issues.

Happens on both 14.1 and 14.2 drivers. Haven't tested 13.xx and I won't either as I need Mantle for BF4.

3. When I use AMD Overdrive to simply OC without editting voltage the 2d clocks are stuck in full 3d for the core.
Memory clocks down just fine, as soon as Overdrive is enabled, core gets stuck in 3d clocks.

When I use a 3rd party OC program and leave Overdrive disabled, it downclocks just fine btw. Turning off Overdrive sees core clock instantly dropping to ~300Mhz. Turning it on even with stock speeds immidiatly jumps to full speed.

Please, anyone, can you help me with any of these issues?

I love my card and even though it is one hell of a sad overclocker I am not going to get rid of it pure because of the insane performance it has in the only game I play ATM which is BF4.
I mean, I run all Ultra with no AA and with HBAO enabled. Drivers set everything to max quality. 1080p with 150% res scale which means 2880x1620 resolution.
With Mantle enabled and at 1100Mhz core and 1500Mhz VRAM i'm averaging way over 70FPS. probably about 80-82 FPS. This is where a GTX780 @ 1306Mhz core and 1800Mhz VRAM can't even average 50 on D3D11...

Choose AB or Trixx. Don't use both.

 

I use Trixx personally. Disable the apply on boot setting, but let Trixx load with Windows.  If you need to overclock it's not hard to enable a saved profile.  Make sure you disable ULPS and force constant voltage, these will help with stability and to keep frame rates consistent.

 

Get rid of those 14.X drivers, they hav been nothing but problems.  Make sure your scrub with DDU. http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html

 

You don't NEED Mantle to play BF4 with one of these cards.

 

Disable AMD Overdrive.


Edited by Roboyto - 2/26/14 at 8:48am
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RAM helps more than people like to admit.

 

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I'm not putting so much weight on what ram I'm using, not going for bench records exactly ^^ But ye I get your point, they dont overclock well have tried. If I was to overclock my ram I'd rather get some dominator plats or TridentXs

 

It helps quite a bit actually. Especially with modern games, and even more so with BF4. 

 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_2.html

 

Check out this build log, page 13 post #122.  BF4 gets ENORMOUS gains from system memory speeds!

 

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Of course you don't need Mantle, you only have one GPU. For people running multi-gpu, they going to need it. Multi-gpu use CPU processing power a lot. Mantle can help that & this will definitely boost performance.

We are only talking about benefits in one game right now, which is BF4. I understand there are performance gains, but to me there are not enough to even begin to deal with the issues the newer drivers bring.

I usually play at 1080p, and my avg fps is around 120 or higher. I don't need extra performance. Even the crossfire users unless your running 4k or 3 monitors, you will not need the extra performance mantle provides.

I'm a avid supporter of Mantle and all it brings, but simply put its not ready yet.
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It helps quite a bit actually. Especially with modern games, and even more so with BF4. 

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/ivy-bridge-ddr3_2.html

Check out this build log, page 13 post #122.  BF4 gets ENORMOUS gains from system memory speeds!

http://www.overclock.net/t/1442038/build-log-the-hawaiian-heat-wave/120


I highly doubt I will see massive gains xD But this is an old build and the price for higher clocked ram wasnt pretty ^^ Having them at 1866 9-10-9-24 atm. Will do a proper build when I get some money together though
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