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We are only talking about benefits in one game right now, which is BF4. I understand there are performance gains, but to me there are not enough to even begin to deal with the issues the newer drivers bring.

I usually play at 1080p, and my avg fps is around 120 or higher. I don't need extra performance. Even the crossfire users unless your running 4k or 3 monitors, you will not need the extra performance mantle provides.

I'm a avid supporter of Mantle and all it brings, but simply put its not ready yet.

the beta testers are us - the gamers. how can it be ready if we don't help test it? see, success or failure, someday i can say i helped test mantle.

like i said, enjoy 13.12 - amd is not forcing to try it.
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Did anybody try mining with 14.2? 14.1 had some errors and i didnt check 14.2.
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I highly doubt I will see massive gains xD But this is an old build and the price for higher clocked ram wasnt pretty ^^ Having them at 1866 9-10-9-24 atm. Will do a proper build when I get some money together though

You doubt, but did you read? 

 

The information is right there, and that Xbitlabs article is from July of 2012, things have only come to take advantage of RAM speeds more since then.

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You gotta keep in mind that Mantle wasnt targeted at i7 and 290 owners, but the APUs or lower end CPUs (It'll also help FX CPU bottlenecks) and GPUs. And this is common knowledge.

So idk why you're complaining, its not like you need the boost Mantle has to offer when you have 3 290s.

LOL!!! This guy

No matter how many gpu's one has there will be a cpu choke point in parts of maps in BF4. I can average 165fps @ my resolution with all the bells and whistles, but if I get low points down below my refresh rate that is annoying. This is OCN, not averageclock.net I want the most performance I can get out of my setup.

Plus "common knowledge" would hopefully show you that Mantle is actually there to HELP with multi-gpu configs every bit as much as a low-end cpu combined with a good gpu. They even showed this in their own testing! thumb.gif

Not sure why you all of sudden come in this thread acting the way you are, but have a nice day all the same. biggrin.gif
    
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You doubt, but did you read? 

The information is right there, and that Xbitlabs article is from July of 2012, things have only come to take advantage of RAM speeds more since then.


I dont really believe the average going from 75 to 120 purely because of ram, Granted I dont know the exact works ^^ anyways I'm gonna leave it now because I dont 100% not even 75% know what I'm talking about ^^
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Of course you don't need Mantle, you only have one GPU. For people running multi-gpu, they going to need it. Multi-gpu use CPU processing power a lot. Mantle can help that & this will definitely boost performance.

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I dont really believe the average going from 75 to 120 purely because of ram, Granted I dont know the exact works ^^ anyways I'm gonna leave it now because I dont 100% not even 75% know what I'm talking about ^^

 

I can only lead you to the water...I can not force you to drink it.

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Choose AB or Trixx. Don't use both.

I use Trixx personally. Disable the apply on boot setting, but let Trixx load with Windows.  If you need to overclock it's not hard to enable a saved profile.  Make sure you disable ULPS and force constant voltage, these will help with stability and to keep frame rates consistent.

Get rid of those 14.X drivers, they hav been nothing but problems.  Make sure your scrub with DDU. http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html

You don't NEED Mantle to play BF4 with one of these cards.

Disable AMD Overdrive.

Sorry for the confusion, I mean I tried with either MSI AB or TriXX but both seems to fail.

And yeah, I kinda need Mantle for BF4. On the settings I play DirectX just cannot deliver the performance to run smoothly in the roughest combat. Mantle can.
I am a GFX whore and even though I like my FPS high (at least 60+ as MINIMUM FPS. Not average) I also like my gfx maxed out.
This means 150% resolution scale at least which is 2880x1620 rendering res.

When I run DX11 it will drop to mid 40's in heavy fighting. Using Mantle it will not ever drop below 55 no matter how hard the fighting is.
Averages also go from 71 in DX11 to 84 on Mantle and FPS is MUCH more stable.

Plus, 14.1 was horrible, I admit. Lot's of crashes and problems.

But, 14.2 has served me so well that ever since I installed it i haven't had a single crash in any game.
Not in BF4 @ Mantle, not in MW2/3 on DX, Not in Bioshock Infinite, not on any random MMO...

I guess i'll have to live with clicking MSI AB's profile and clicking Apply again after every cold boot. Or just use sleep mode tongue.gif
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We are only talking about benefits in one game right now, which is BF4. I understand there are performance gains, but to me there are not enough to even begin to deal with the issues the newer drivers bring.

I usually play at 1080p, and my avg fps is around 120 or higher. I don't need extra performance. Even the crossfire users unless your running 4k or 3 monitors, you will not need the extra performance mantle provides.

I'm a avid supporter of Mantle and all it brings, but simply put its not ready yet.
Crossfire will use/need more CPU processing power than single GPU. With certain CPUs, it can strain the CPU to the point where performance lost because CPU bottlenecking. You think multi-gpu can provide extra performance but forgot to take into account whether CPU can handle them or not. Two 290's already enough to bring certain CPUs to its knees. This is where Mantle come in. It can reduced CPU time & therefore improved performance.

Like I said before, you don't need Mantle because you only have one GPU. I'm not arguing whether you should use Mantle or not but just agreeing with you in your case.
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Sorry for the confusion, I mean I tried with either MSI AB or TriXX but both seems to fail.

And yeah, I kinda need Mantle for BF4. On the settings I play DirectX just cannot deliver the performance to run smoothly in the roughest combat. Mantle can.
I am a GFX whore and even though I like my FPS high (at least 60+ as MINIMUM FPS. Not average) I also like my gfx maxed out.
This means 150% resolution scale at least which is 2880x1620 rendering res.

When I run DX11 it will drop to mid 40's in heavy fighting. Using Mantle it will not ever drop below 55 no matter how hard the fighting is.
Averages also go from 71 in DX11 to 84 on Mantle and FPS is MUCH more stable.

Plus, 14.1 was horrible, I admit. Lot's of crashes and problems.

But, 14.2 has served me so well that ever since I installed it i haven't had a single crash in any game.
Not in BF4 @ Mantle, not in MW2/3 on DX, Not in Bioshock Infinite, not on any random MMO...

I guess i'll have to live with clicking MSI AB's profile and clicking Apply again after every cold boot. Or just use sleep mode tongue.gif

 

Sometimes compromises must be made, especially at that resolution with 1 card. 

 

Mantle is still in its infancy, only time will help it grow.

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AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Gigabyte GA-AB350M Gaming 3 Power Color RX Vega 64 EK FC Vega - Nickel/Plexi 
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8GB Corsair LPX 3200 Western Digital Black 6TB Crucial M500 240Gb Intel 530 240GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
OCZ Vertex 3 128GB XSPC Raystorm XSPC EX240 XSPC EX240 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance Compression Fittings Feser Silver Tubing Corsair SP120 High Performance x4 XSPC Dual 5.25" Reservoir 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Swiftech MCP-655 Yate Loon 20mm Medium Speed x2 Windows 10 Pro LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS LG 23EA63V-P 23" Slim LED IPS Logitech G510 Corsair RX1000X 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Obsidian 350D Corsair Sabre RGB Corsair MM800C Polaris RGB Logitech Z623 
Audio
Corsair Gaming Void RGB Headset 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 4250U Intel NUC BOXD54250WYKH1 Intel HD5000 Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3L 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Crucial M500 mSATA Windows 7 Ultimate LG 50" LED 120Hz TV Logitech K400 
Mouse
Logitech K400 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600 ASRock AB350m Pro 4 Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB G1 Gaming Patriot Viper 4 - 8GB DDR4 3200MHz (PV48G320C6K) 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba Q Series 128GB 6TB Toshiba N300 Samsung 4TB D3 Station - External Sandisk X110 256GB M.2  
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Panasonic UJ-265 Slim 6X Blu-ray Writer Cryorig M9 92mm Mini-Tower Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut SilenX Effizio Thermistor 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro Sharp Aquos 60" 120Hz Logitech K800 EVGA 850G2 SuperNova 
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