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Finally had some time to push the limits of my Asus 290x (Flashed with the Powercolor 290x PCS+ bios) Haven't had much time since putting the waterblock on it and also upgrading the pads to play with it. Its no "golden" 290x by any means, but I'm pretty happy with the results.

Max clock = 1280 / 1500

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1280 on the core is pretty good all things considered. They run 1000 MHz out of the box right? 28% is a healthy jump.  One of my 290s couldn't break 1080/1350, got to +125mV and it still wasn't budging...so I sold it.

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Been doing alot of reading regarding the 4670k vs 4770k for BF4 utilizing HT & multiple GPU's.

So currently I have the 4670k @ 4.5ghz and ive recently purchased myself a couple of 290's to run in crossfiree basically just for bf4. Since doing so I have noticed my cpu working alot harder and after reading a great deal of info it has become evident to me I might need to goto an i7 and take advantage of the HT.

My question is how much is my current cpu bottlenecking the gpus and will going to a 4770k with HT provide any type of noticeable boost in performance for my bf4?

Running ultra settings on 1440p 120hz monitor with a 2nd monitor for stats.

 

BF4 optimized around 4 cores/threads just as BF3 was.  It will push a 4 core/thread CPU to 90% or better. As you add more cores/threads the load is distributed across the additional threads.  8 cores/threads instead of 90% usage you would likely see something more like 40-50%.

 

Bottleneck probably going to be hard to measure until you get the new CPU.  Comparing benchmarks could be one way to tell, but the problem is that the benchmark can't exactly simulate large multiplayer load. 

 

What we do know is that a 4770k absolutely won't bottleneck with Xfire 290s.  I think your best bet is to toss your CPU up on eBay or something, cover half-ish the cost of the i7 and then you can stop worrying about a potential issue and just enjoy your hardware.

 

You can use Afterburner's RTSS/OSD with HWinfo to display real-time stats on your monitor in game.  I have mine setup to see CPU load per core, CPU temp, RAM used, GPU load, GPU/VRM1 temps.


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Been doing alot of reading regarding the 4670k vs 4770k for BF4 utilizing HT & multiple GPU's.

So currently I have the 4670k @ 4.5ghz and ive recently purchased myself a couple of 290's to run in crossfiree basically just for bf4. Since doing so I have noticed my cpu working alot harder and after reading a great deal of info it has become evident to me I might need to goto an i7 and take advantage of the HT.

My question is how much is my current cpu bottlenecking the gpus and will going to a 4770k with HT provide any type of noticeable boost in performance for my bf4?

Running ultra settings on 1440p 120hz monitor with a 2nd monitor for stats.

HT will provide absolutely nothing in BF4. Same story with BF3. I can see HT helping if BF4 has similar utilization for 8-Core CPU as its does for 4-Core. I upgraded from 3570K to 3770K because I was being bottlenecked in BF3 with 2 x HD 7970. It basically did nothing. CPU usage went from 90% to 45%-50%. GPU utilization stayed the same and so did the fps.
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HT will provide absolutely nothing in BF4. Same story with BF3. I can see HT helping if BF4 has similar utilization for 8-Core CPU as its does for 4-Core. I upgraded from 3570K to 3770K because I was being bottlenecked in BF3 with 2 x HD 7970. It basically did nothing. CPU usage went from 90% to 45%-50%. GPU utilization stayed the same and so did the fps.

 

That's exactly what I read in a review.  Even an FX-4300 or i3-4340 can push surprising frames in BF4, but the CPU is loaded just as much as the i5 since they are still 4 core/thread CPUs. 

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Originally Posted by pkrexer View Post

Finally had some time to push the limits of my Asus 290x (Flashed with the Powercolor 290x PCS+ bios) Haven't had much time since putting the waterblock on it and also upgrading the pads to play with it. Its no "golden" 290x by any means, but I'm pretty happy with the results.

Max clock = 1280 / 1500

Benches:

Firestrike: http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1809882

Valley:


1280 is bleepin fantastic imho. What's your ASIC? 1200/1500 is my ceiling at ASIC 70% and I'm totally happy with that.

Which gets me


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Been doing alot of reading regarding the 4670k vs 4770k for BF4 utilizing HT & multiple GPU's.

So currently I have the 4670k @ 4.5ghz and ive recently purchased myself a couple of 290's to run in crossfiree basically just for bf4. Since doing so I have noticed my cpu working alot harder and after reading a great deal of info it has become evident to me I might need to goto an i7 and take advantage of the HT.

My question is how much is my current cpu bottlenecking the gpus and will going to a 4770k with HT provide any type of noticeable boost in performance for my bf4?

Running ultra settings on 1440p 120hz monitor with a 2nd monitor for stats.

I found 290 crossfire totally not worth it paired to my 4670k. Some folks here swear 4670k cannot bottleneck 290 xfire but gpu usage was constantly dropping, and it doesn't do that in single card, so I assume that's cpu bottleneck. It does give a boost, not saying otherwise, but not enough to justify (for me) the added power draw, heat, noise. But if you're a BF4 fanatic I suppose the boost is worth it even if the upside-downside ratio isn't 1 to 1.
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Yeah 1280 is pretty darn good. I can't pass 1175 on mine. But it might be that I am hitting the max on my psu and not necessary the cards max.
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1280 is bleepin fantastic imho. What's your ASIC? 1200/1500 is my ceiling at ASIC 70% and I'm totally happy with that.

72.9% nothing special

Werid thing about my GPU is that it does not like any thing over +190mv even though my temps never passed 45c running 3dmark. Soon as I apply 200mv to the core, my video starts wiggin out... Screen will randomly go black and come back on... starts shifting side to side, really werid.
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I did some testing and on the 14.2 beta drivers, if your running 4way crossfire you might have issues like me.

If i disable eyefinity and run a 1080p single monitor in 4 wayCF i have no issues with frame pacing.
If i run 4wayCF in Eyefinity i get horrible screen tearing/suttering. The FPS still looks good on benchmarks but the screen is barely discernible

So while this may just be an issue for me and only me, i'm still waiting for some feedback from any 4wayCF users as well, in eyefinity if possible.

Thanks.


4wayCF + Eyfinity = frame/stutter
3wayCF + Eyefinity = fine.
4wayCF + single screen = fine.
Are you running 4-way 290's in your sig rig, with CPU 3820? If yes, good to know 3820 can handle 4-way just fine. What is the total screen resolution in Eyefinity? Can you do me a favour? Please take screenshot of CPU usage while playing BF4. You can use "Open Hardware Monitor", just need to run it in the background to record CPU usage.

For example.

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Been doing alot of reading regarding the 4670k vs 4770k for BF4 utilizing HT & multiple GPU's.

So currently I have the 4670k @ 4.5ghz and ive recently purchased myself a couple of 290's to run in crossfiree basically just for bf4. Since doing so I have noticed my cpu working alot harder and after reading a great deal of info it has become evident to me I might need to goto an i7 and take advantage of the HT.

My question is how much is my current cpu bottlenecking the gpus and will going to a 4770k with HT provide any type of noticeable boost in performance for my bf4?

Running ultra settings on 1440p 120hz monitor with a 2nd monitor for stats.

I found 290 crossfire totally not worth it paired to my 4670k. Some folks here swear 4670k cannot bottleneck 290 xfire but gpu usage was constantly dropping, and it doesn't do that in single card, so I assume that's cpu bottleneck. It does give a boost, not saying otherwise, but not enough to justify (for me) the added power draw, heat, noise. But if you're a BF4 fanatic I suppose the boost is worth it even if the upside-downside ratio isn't 1 to 1.
290's Crossfire GPU usage will be fluctuating & this is normal. However, if it's followed by sudden FPS drop, then most likely CPU is bottlenecking. If it's feels smooth in games, then CPU is not bottlenecking.

Check out my CPU & GPU usage in BF4. In all settings, the games feels smooths, no sudden FPS drop, except when HT off.

This is my GPU's usage @1080p 100%resolution scale in BF4 (High settings).


CPU usage @1080p 100% resolution scale in BF4 (Ultra settings).


CPU usage @1080p 100% resolution scale in BF4 (Ultra settings) + CPU HT OFF.
As you can see here, with HT off, CPU usage also increased.



GPU's usage @1080p 200% resolution scale in BF4 (High settings).


CPU usage @1080p 200% resolution scale in BF4 (Ultra settings).




@Prozillah, monitor your CPU usage using Open Hardware Monitor.
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Just a tiny update on Powercolor honoring RMA's. Even though Newegg's return window expired, they still accepted the card back when i called them. But i filed a ticket with Powercolor the day before. Powercolor just emailed me back finally a cpl hours ago. It looks like they're at least willing to RMA the black screen cards if it came to it. Thought this might be useful info to somebody

 

Dear User,

 

1.      Please try update MB BIOS to the newest version.

2.      Please check your ATX power supply, the R9 290x needs a 750 watt or better power supply with one 6-pin PCIe and one 8-pin power connectors. Certified power supplies are strongly recommended; for a list of certified power supplies, please see http://support.amd.com/en-us/recommended/power-supplies

3.      Please try install the newest beta graphic driver from AMD website: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-catalyst-windows-beta.aspx Removing all old graphic driver before installing new driver is recommend.

4.      If problem still exist after above checking step, please do a RMA service. If you need a RMA service, please contact your dealer for RMA services, they are supposed to take care of your RMA request; if your dealer is no longer in service or can’t provide you services, please go to http://www.powercolor.com/us/support_rmaservice.asp  then following steps to get RMA service. Thanks

 

    
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