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I'm getting really low scores on benches for 290 crossfire. At 1140 core, 1500 mem, I get
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3dmark11 crossfire


3dmark11 single gpu


fire strike crossfire


fire strike single gpu


valley crossfire


valley single gpu

Gpu z is reporting clocks and usage where they should be during benching. So why are my 3dmark scores so low? I'm only seeing 35%-45% gain over single gpu at same clocks. Is that normal? In a game I could understand a 40% gain. But for benching shouldn't I be getting 80% at least in gain?

Any of you guys have any bench results for 290 crossfire at roughly these clocks, 1140 core 1500 mem that you'd care to share? It's the gpu score that I'm interested in obviously.

edit to add, this review http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5991/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-4gb-in-crossfire-video-card-review/index4.html reports 3dmark11 score of 22008, a full 1/3 higher than my score. Granted that is a 3960 cpu @ 4.7 vs my 4670k @ 4.6 but still.
You can't compare 4670k with hexy in 3dmark11. CPU does affect 3dmark11 score. It's called synthetic benchmark for a reason. Don't worry about it. Your Valleys score also are in line with everyone else.

Check out mine. Honestly, I thought my score lower than it should be too.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8007990
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8004406
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yea, its the same design the 290X tri-X uses, so you get a massive amount of thermal room for silence and/or large overclocks, you should be able to hit 1200/1600 quite easily, just keep in mind your memory OC also relies on the core voltage on these cards.

I'm going to take a guess you'll settle on 1250/1650 with +80mV on the core...

edit; oh and be sure to test on games to ensure its stable, a lot of burn-in and benchmark tools don't exactly expose instability, and don't use furmark in this case as it uses way too much power compared to normal real-world loads.

Far Cry 3 atleast was ultimate torture test for overclocked GK110 (Titan and 780), stressed more the card than any other game. If Far Cry 3 was stable, everything else was. biggrin.gif I usually loop valley to see if card is stable, then i play some games aswell.
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I'm getting really low scores on benches for 290 crossfire. At 1140 core, 1500 mem, I get

3dmark11 crossfire


3dmark11 single gpu


fire strike crossfire


fire strike single gpu


valley crossfire


valley single gpu


Gpu z is reporting clocks and usage where they should be during benching. So why are my 3dmark scores so low? I'm only seeing 35%-45% gain over single gpu at same clocks. Is that normal? In a game I could understand a 40% gain. But for benching shouldn't I be getting 80% at least in gain?

Any of you guys have any bench results for 290 crossfire at roughly these clocks, 1140 core 1500 mem that you'd care to share? It's the gpu score that I'm interested in obviously.

edit to add, this review http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5991/sapphire-radeon-r9-290-4gb-in-crossfire-video-card-review/index4.html reports 3dmark11 score of 22008, a full 1/3 higher than my score. Granted that is a 3960 cpu @ 4.7 vs my 4670k @ 4.6 but still.

You're getting like 5k more score then me frown.gif getting like 19-20k ish graphics score in firestrike on 1050/1350 and cpu is a 3570k at 4.5

Gonna see if a mate want to trade his 3770k wiht me poke.gif
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i think as5 is capacitive. it can create shorts and kill components. i advise to reapply some other paste like Gelid extreme. clean the core and its surrounding. gl!

More bad news. Took the cooler off last night to look to see how the paste was looking. There was a relatively good size "hole" in the center. Looked to have either pulled away from the chip/block. So I removed the paste and reapplied a different paste. Got everything back together and put the card back in the machine. Heard a nice sounding POP as soon as I turned on the computer. Watched the card to see if it was going to burst into flames... Immediately opened HWmonitor to see if I could tell what happened. Everything looked fine for a little while. Temps started out at 41 degrees idle. And then they starting climbing. I let it get up to 85 degrees and then tried to turn the fans up... NOTHING. Temps still climbed to 99 degrees before I shut it down. Opened the card up this morning and paste looked good, thumb.gif but, over where the cooler connects to the board, there was a nice star burst on the board where one of the small silver things (don't know technical term) were right next to the connector. So I am taking it as I just blew the fan up...

Couple questions. I have been told that somehow some paste may have gotten on the board and caused a short. With that probably being the case, is there any way to save the card? I can take a picture of it this afternoon if that would help. If the area that is shorted out is just the fan, will this card still work if a waterblock is put on it?
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So guys, I pulled the trigger and bought the Samsung u28d590d on eBay. Comes out to the same price as Amazon preorder with tax but I can get this one in 2-3 days. Got it from eBay. I'll hopefully have it this weekend and can do some gaming and see how 4k 60hz stacks up!
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More bad news. Took the cooler off last night to look to see how the paste was looking. There was a relatively good size "hole" in the center. Looked to have either pulled away from the chip/block. So I removed the paste and reapplied a different paste. Got everything back together and put the card back in the machine. Heard a nice sounding POP as soon as I turned on the computer. Watched the card to see if it was going to burst into flames... Immediately opened HWmonitor to see if I could tell what happened. Everything looked fine for a little while. Temps started out at 41 degrees idle. And then they starting climbing. I let it get up to 85 degrees and then tried to turn the fans up... NOTHING. Temps still climbed to 99 degrees before I shut it down. Opened the card up this morning and paste looked good, thumb.gif but, over where the cooler connects to the board, there was a nice star burst on the board where one of the small silver things (don't know technical term) were right next to the connector. So I am taking it as I just blew the fan up...

Couple questions. I have been told that somehow some paste may have gotten on the board and caused a short. With that probably being the case, is there any way to save the card? I can take a picture of it this afternoon if that would help. If the area that is shorted out is just the fan, will this card still work if a waterblock is put on it?

I honestly wouldn't know, but might I suggest - if you want to see if the card still works okay - trying an after market cooler before deciding to take the plunge in water?

A thing like the Gelid Icy Vision or Arctic's Accelero Twin Turbo II would do the trick, either hooked up to a fan controller or a direct feed from the psu via molex connectors.

If you feel daring and have two 12 / 14 cm fans lying around, you could even try to ghetto rig them onto an Artic Accelro S1 - there is someone in this thread who did that not to long ago, and if I recall correctly, it worked out good enough.

Just a word of advice: be sure to keep VRM1 cool - sub 80 C seems to be the concensus for proper and effecient function.

Good luck!
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that's with mine at 1250/1550
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Don't worry about it. Your Valleys score also are in line with everyone else.

Check out mine. Honestly, I thought my score lower than it should be too.
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getting like 19-20k ish graphics score in firestrike on 1050/1350 and cpu is a 3570k at 4.5

Thanks guys, I guess my scores are where they should be. Crossfire doesn't scale as well as I'd hoped. I'm on 13.12, maybe 14.2 will help a bit. But since I only have 850w psu and air cool, I can't oc in crossfire as much as I could a single gpu. I can get close to these 3dmark scores with a single 290 heavily oc'd. I might have gotten equal performance from a good clocking single 290x than 290 crossfire. I guess to get benefit out of this I need a better psu and put some more beef on those clocks. Though, temps will limit me from going to 1200+/1600+ like I could with single gpu, though that requires a vddc adjust of over 100 and I'm not sure that's so great long term. But I doubt the card would fry before I feel the itch to upgrade anyway,
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Far Cry 3 atleast was ultimate torture test for overclocked GK110 (Titan and 780), stressed more the card than any other game. If Far Cry 3 was stable, everything else was. biggrin.gif I usually loop valley to see if card is stable, then i play some games aswell.

I've found the same thing, I can pass every bench and other games and then FC3 will crash on me. I keep it installed just to check clock stability these days. Great game too I wish there was more I could do in it but I've cleared the map.
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More bad news. Took the cooler off last night to look to see how the paste was looking. There was a relatively good size "hole" in the center. Looked to have either pulled away from the chip/block. So I removed the paste and reapplied a different paste. Got everything back together and put the card back in the machine. Heard a nice sounding POP as soon as I turned on the computer. Watched the card to see if it was going to burst into flames... Immediately opened HWmonitor to see if I could tell what happened. Everything looked fine for a little while. Temps started out at 41 degrees idle. And then they starting climbing. I let it get up to 85 degrees and then tried to turn the fans up... NOTHING. Temps still climbed to 99 degrees before I shut it down. Opened the card up this morning and paste looked good, thumb.gif but, over where the cooler connects to the board, there was a nice star burst on the board where one of the small silver things (don't know technical term) were right next to the connector. So I am taking it as I just blew the fan up...

Couple questions. I have been told that somehow some paste may have gotten on the board and caused a short. With that probably being the case, is there any way to save the card? I can take a picture of it this afternoon if that would help. If the area that is shorted out is just the fan, will this card still work if a waterblock is put on it?

Was the fan running while you did this testing? Did you check to see while it was on? If you had to, you could probably get by with taking the shroud off the cooler and just wire-tie a couple of fans to the cooler so you could run it for a quick test. That would be better than buying a cooler just to test it. I wouldn't run it like that long-term, but it should certainly do the job for 15 minutes or so while you tested the card out.

But I don't like the sound of something going pop on the card - I'd try to RMA it instead of fooling with it, if you still can. And if something on the card actually blew (the star-burst thing you mention) I would definitely not bother fooling with it.
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Definitely rma it
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I honestly wouldn't know, but might I suggest - if you want to see if the card still works okay - trying an after market cooler before deciding to take the plunge in water?

A thing like the Gelid Icy Vision or Arctic's Accelero Twin Turbo II would do the trick, either hooked up to a fan controller or a direct feed from the psu via molex connectors.

If you feel daring and have two 12 / 14 cm fans lying around, you could even try to ghetto rig them onto an Artic Accelro S1 - there is someone in this thread who did that not to long ago, and if I recall correctly, it worked out good enough.

Just a word of advice: be sure to keep VRM1 cool - sub 80 C seems to be the concensus for proper and effecient function.

Good luck!

Thank you for the response. Trust me, I am not jumping into water cooling anytime soon. I use to think it was something I wanted to do but i just can't afford it and don't want to put the time into it. (That sounds really negative, not meant that way).

The real reason I asked if it would still work for water cooling, was if I decided to list it on ebay. I could list it and just say it is a "water cooling only" card. But I guess that is a little premature without the proper testing.
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Was the fan running while you did this testing? Did you check to see while it was on? If you had to, you could probably get by with taking the shroud off the cooler and just wire-tie a couple of fans to the cooler so you could run it for a quick test. That would be better than buying a cooler just to test it. I wouldn't run it like that long-term, but it should certainly do the job for 15 minutes or so while you tested the card out.

But I don't like the sound of something going pop on the card - I'd try to RMA it instead of fooling with it, if you still can. And if something on the card actually blew (the star-burst thing you mention) I would definitely not bother fooling with it.

I know the fan worked before I took the cooler off the second time because, after my friend initially took the cooler off and put AS5 on it, I ran tests and it would crash and the fan would shoot to 100%. After the pop and a test of about 5 minutes, the card got to that point of blanking out the screens and the fan should have kicked to 100% but they didn't. So I shut it off, let it cool for a little while and turned the computer back on to see how the temps acted. Didn't take long for it to get hot just idling with HWmonitor up.

I am leaning more towards just RMA'ing it. Only problem is my friend bought it off of ebay. Will they still honor a RMA with me not being the "original" owner? Btw it is a Sapphire r9 290.
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Kingston HyperX 3K 240G SSD Seagate Barracuda 7200 3 TB Seagate Barracuda 7200 3 TB WD Black 1TB 
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Lite-ON DVD burner Cooler Master 212+ Win 7 Hanns·G 25" LCD Monitor x3 
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Logitech Wireless Illuminated Keyboard K800 COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series 1000W COOLER MASTER HAF X Logitech G700 
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Logitech G930 Wireless Gaming Headset 
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AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz OC'ed to 3.4 MSI 870A Fuzion Radeon 5870 Radeon 5870 
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Patriot G 'Sector 5' 2x4Gb DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) WD 150GB VelociRaptor, WD Black 1TB Win 7 64 Logitech G-15 
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CORSAIR HX Series 620W Unsure Logitech G518 
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