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Have you tried running the cards one at a time to see if the problem still occurs? That might tell you if one of the cards is bad, or if it is a Crossfire issue.

You shouldn't have any problems running the different cards (or different BIOSes) together, unless there is something else wrong. Crossfire shouldn't care that they are different.

I shall try now to test each card on its own?...on the main card did you see that one of the VRM hit 90c....Do you think this could be the reason for the half frame rates and juddering?

Also i will test each card alone!...i don't think i need to physically remove the card?.... just unplug the power cables from the card i am not using correct?

Also i am ruining Heaven at 2560x1440

EDIT:- Also it look in the hardware monitor if the loads are going up and down...however after the stoping heaven when the frame rate drops in half and i get the juddering i check average GPU core clock in GPU-Z and the result is over 1100 on both cards?...so is are they really jumping up and down?

Also i am not even overclocking these cards i am not bothered about that...they will be fast enough standard for me

Could the VRM hitting 90c be the reason this is happening,..at what temps do these cards throttle?
Edited by lawson67 - 3/14/14 at 7:12pm
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90C is a little hot for the VRMs, but they are supposedly rated to 120C so I doubt they would be causing throttling like you are seeing at 90C. The problem is happening right away now, or is it still only occurring after you've run the cards for a while?

Have you tried running anything besides Heaven to test them, maybe Valley or 3DMark? I'd hate for you to be going through all this trouble only to find out it is a Heaven issue and not a card problem.

For comparison, here's my card running Heaven (using HWInfo logging)


Edited by Forceman - 3/14/14 at 7:36pm
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So, I'm a newb to overclocking.. Is there a 290x overclocking guide? I'm going to watercool my quadfire setup, however I figure (much like Lawson, sup bro?!) that I should run each individually, right?

My process:
Bump up 25MHz, run, if no artificating, bump another 25MHz... Once artifacting occurs, bump up the voltage, 10mV, repeat until no more artifacting. Is there any sort of ratio in terms of MHz to mV increases?

I'm benching with 3Dmark, and Unigine Valley...
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So, I'm a newb to overclocking.. Is there a 290x overclocking guide? I'm going to watercool my quadfire setup, however I figure (much like Lawson, sup bro?!) that I should run each individually, right?

My process:
Bump up 25MHz, run, if no artificating, bump another 25MHz... Once artifacting occurs, bump up the voltage, 10mV, repeat until no more artifacting. Is there any sort of ratio in terms of MHz to mV increases?

I'm benching with 3Dmark, and Unigine Valley...

Not sure why you'd need to overclock quad-fire unless you are going for Benching records but individual clocks are a good way to go about it.

The process you listed is the way i'd do it, bear in mind you want alot of power supplying these cards if you are going to overvolt them all at once (Dual PSU rig, probably 2000w or so at least.)
 
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90C is a little hot for the VRMs, but they are supposedly rated to 120C so I doubt they would be causing throttling like you are seeing at 90C. The problem is happening right away now, or is it still only occurring after you've run the cards for a while?

Have you tried running anything besides Heaven to test them, maybe Valley or 3DMark? I'd hate for you to be going through all this trouble only to find out it is a Heaven issue and not a card problem.

For comparison, here's my card running Heaven (using HWInfo logging)


I have fixed it!!...i un-installed Trixx and did not turn on gpu-z and just used the hardware monitor and set power limit to 50 on both cards in CCC and benchmarked it for 1 hour and it was fine!...the top card hit 90c but i have been reading that's fine for these cards?...i did not get any throttling!...i am now very pleased biggrin.gif....I have superduper fast Graphics on my lovely 27"overclocked to 120hz 2560x1440 Qnix biggrin.gif....Oh and hey Hi Sean thumb.gif

No throttling!


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I have fixed it!!...i un-installed Trixx and did not turn on gpu-z and just used the hardware monitor and set power limit to 50 on both cards benchmarked it for 1 hour and it was fine!...the top card hit 90c but i have been reading that's fine for these cards?...i did not get any throttling!...i am now very pleased biggrin.gif

No throttling!


Glad you figured it out. Wonder if it may have been GPU-Z, there were some issues when the cards first came out with GPU-Z causing issues. Did you have the newest version?
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I have fixed it!!...i un-installed Trixx and did not turn on gpu-z and just used the hardware monitor and set power limit to 50 on both cards in CCC and benchmarked it for 1 hour and it was fine!...the top card hit 90c but i have been reading that's fine for these cards?...i did not get any throttling!...i am now very pleased biggrin.gif

No throttling!
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Glad you figured it out. Wonder if it may have been GPU-Z, there were some issues when the cards first came out with GPU-Z causing issues. Did you have the newest version?

I think running too many programs that read devices cause these cards to be weird, if i try to run HWiNFO64, AB and GPU-Z together my clocks get all messed up along with my power limit.

That's with AB active mind you, when it's in the task bar it's fine.
 
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Glad you figured it out. Wonder if it may have been GPU-Z, there were some issues when the cards first came out with GPU-Z causing issues. Did you have the newest version?

Yes its GPZ-U and yes i made sure i had downloaded the latest version!...it even locked up the computer on few occasions!...its something to remember in the future for other members that may have this problem!...but thanks for all the help guys thumb.gif
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I feel you Lawson. I sure as hell won't be buying AMD again after my experience with these 290xs. I have spent more time in BSOD, Screen lock, and re-installing drivers than I have playing games since I got them. I never once had to re-install an NVIDIA driver and rarely if ever saw BSOD, screen lock, etc.

I have never ever had screen lock on this PC...GPU-Z gave me screen lock and forced me to hard reset!...try not to use it and see how you go thumb.gif
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Glad you got it sorted Lawson, these are bad ass cards... enjoy them now! thumb.gif
    
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