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Was hoping for something strong,but still non permanent.
Read your thread on the FUE,and was amazed at the temp differences.

I do have the arctic accelero hybrid though.might give a read as to mounting it on my 290.the end result wouldnt be as pretty as a custom loop but if temps arent gonna be much of a difference,then why not

 

Core temps will likely be very similar to a full loop, depending on how extravagant of one anyhow.  The AIO has the advantage of not having to cope with VRM1.  The primary reason why the reference coolers were so terrible was that they were first cooling the volcanic VRM1...the hot air from there was then going to the core.  VRM1 temps are the biggest difference with full cover and other cooling means.  Just need to make sure you have healthy airflow over the VRM1, especially if you plan on OCing, and you should be OK.

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thanks for that. Will give it a go when I have the time/resources and get back to you with any qns i might have...
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So I had a weird problem occur yesterday. Was playing Arkham Origins when suddenly I got a BSOD saying system exception thread not handled as the error code. I restart and all of a sudden CCC won't load and Device Manager was telling me "windows has stopped this device because it has communicated that it's not working properly" code 43 for all 3 of my cards. All my restore points were deleted somehow too and my ssd boot drive keeps getting loaded with files I can't see because the available space keeps getting lower and lower everytime I look at it for no apparent reason. ( but that's another problem). Anyways, I had to disable all my cards except 1 uninstall 14.2 betas and then install 14.3. Cards seem to be ok now but I've never had a BSOD from overclocking that didn't say atikmdiag exception or whatever it says usually for driver problems.

run a memtest overnight, then check the status of your SSD, check its performance, and its quite possible you could have a bad SATA cable on it or another drive.

those above can cause all sorts of problems, but if you pass that I would think you would want to format the SSD and do a fresh windows install...

edit; oh and if you're overclocking CPU, be sure to runs things like prime95 for a bit every now and then to be sure its still stable, sometimes you need to add a tad more voltage.
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run a memtest overnight, then check the status of your SSD, check its performance, and its quite possible you could have a bad SATA cable on it or another drive.

those above can cause all sorts of problems, but if you pass that I would think you would want to format the SSD and do a fresh windows install...

edit; oh and if you're overclocking CPU, be sure to runs things like prime95 for a bit every now and then to be sure its still stable, sometimes you need to add a tad more voltage.

Thanks for the speedy reply Paul. I had run the initial batch of stability testing when I first did all the OCs and they were all stable with the settings I refined. Includes Aida64 memtest, prime95 linx and cinebench. Valley, Heaven, games and 3dmark for the gpus. I'm using the xmp profile for my memory and never noticed a problem. I think you may be on to something with the stability of the SSD. But even the ssd is also very new about 3 months old so I will check that over the weekend.
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Thanks for the speedy reply Paul. I had run the initial batch of stability testing when I first did all the OCs and they were all stable with the settings I refined. Includes Aida64 memtest, prime95 linx and cinebench. Valley, Heaven, games and 3dmark for the gpus. I'm using the xmp profile for my memory and never noticed a problem. I think you may be on to something with the stability of the SSD. But even the ssd is also very new about 3 months old so I will check that over the weekend.

 

MemTest doesn't always tell all from my experiences.  On 2 separate occasions I have had MemTest run for 12+ hours showing no errors and the RAM was actually faulty.  This happened with G.Skill Ares and Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM.  If you have extra RAM somewhere I would consider swapping it in for testing purposes.  The problem with synthetic benchmarks is they don't simulate exactly how things happen in real-world use scenarios.  :2cents: 

 

Also a quick removal and re-seating of the DIMMs can fix strange quirks like this; one tiny piece of dust can throw it all off.

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MemTest doesn't always tell all from my experiences.  On 2 separate occasions I have had MemTest run for 12+ hours showing no errors and the RAM was actually faulty.  This happened with G.Skill Ares and Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM.  If you have extra RAM somewhere I would consider swapping it in for testing purposes.  The problem with synthetic benchmarks is they don't simulate exactly how things happen in real-world use scenarios.  2cents.gif  

Hmm, so is there a bench that is more representative of real-world conditions?
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MemTest doesn't always tell all from my experiences.  On 2 separate occasions I have had MemTest run for 12+ hours showing no errors and the RAM was actually faulty.  This happened with G.Skill Ares and Corsair Vengeance DDR3 RAM.  If you have extra RAM somewhere I would consider swapping it in for testing purposes.  The problem with synthetic benchmarks is they don't simulate exactly how things happen in real-world use scenarios.  2cents.gif  

Also a quick removal and re-seating of the DIMMs can fix strange quirks like this; one tiny piece of dust can throw it all off.

Thanks ! I'll definitely reseat the DIMMs I remember when putting the dominator platinums in that I couldn't tell if they were secure due to the heat spreader being so tall and the gpu covering the bottom side of the tabs. They all "clicked" in so I assumed they were ok. What kind of problems were you noticing that lead you to conclude that the RAM was faulty after your memtesting? I do have a kit of vengeance 1600mhz but I really don't want to find out the dominator platinums I have aren't working properly mad.gif
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Hmm, so is there a bench that is more representative of real-world conditions?

 

Hard to say TBH, this is just my experience. They all do a pretty good job, but if you consider all the different things you could be doing simultaneously it is hard to replicate. 

 

Strange performance issues and unexplainable BSODs always turn me to: re-seating components, unplugging/plugging cables, switching RAM slots, testing DIMMS individually, or swapping in known good RAM.

 

It's always the stupidest little thing that can make a difference.  Just had an issue when I was reinstalling my delidded/naked 4770k; thought my Z87 Gryphon died.  Took 2 reseats of the CPU for everything to function properly.

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Thanks ! I'll definitely reseat the DIMMs I remember when putting the dominator platinums in that I couldn't tell if they were secure due to the heat spreader being so tall and the gpu covering the bottom side of the tabs. They all "clicked" in so I assumed they were ok. What kind of problems were you noticing that lead you to conclude that the RAM was faulty after your memtesting? I do have a kit of vengeance 1600mhz but I really don't want to find out the dominator platinums I have aren't working properly mad.gif

 

I have dominator platinum as well...it is fairly unlikely they are bad considering the rigorous testing that they are put through...but it's not impossible!  I was getting strange BSODs and lackluster performance overall, especially when booting.  On a positive note, Corsair offers advanced RMA.  It does require a CC/Debit card number, but they ship you out a new set with a return label.  Just drop your faulty memory in the box and send it back.  Couldn't be any easier than that :specool: 


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Noted. Same here too. I've prime95ed my way through an OC on small ftt and it'll pass, but sometime when watching videos i'll BSOD.
No idea why. For now tempted to wipe my ssd boot drive clean and re try my OC.
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Originally Posted by cephelix View Post

Noted. Same here too. I've prime95ed my way through an OC on small ftt and it'll pass, but sometime when watching videos i'll BSOD.
No idea why. For now tempted to wipe my ssd boot drive clean and re try my OC.

 

Never hurts to reset to stock settings to see if the issue persists.  If it does then there is another factor involved.

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