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Can't change voltage in afterburner...is there does trixxx allow for voltage change?
dialed memory back to 1400, now i can't even run 3d mark without artifacts.

Try trixx...I don't think any of the R9 290(X) cards are voltage locked.  

 

In the options for Trixx make sure you enable 'Force Constant Voltage' and disable ULPS.  I had issues with AB with my card right out of the gate, have been using Trixx with great success since.  I got beast card, and Trixx has been able to push it to 1300/1700 :cheers:

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Try trixx...I don't think any of the R9 290(X) cards are voltage locked.  

In the options for Trixx make sure you enable 'Force Constant Voltage' and disable ULPS.  I had issues with AB with my card right out of the gate, have been using Trixx with great success since.  I got beast card, and Trixx has been able to push it to 1300/1700 cheers.gif

Very nice OC...will try tmrw then.too late/early to do it now depending on how you look at it.It's 3am here.....
Another qn though before i go, how large of an increase to voltage do i apply at each step?
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Very nice OC...will try tmrw then.too late/early to do it now depending on how you look at it.It's 3am here.....
Another qn though before i go, how large of an increase to voltage do i apply at each step?

Thank You :)  I did spend a substantial amount of time benching, but the fact is undeniable that I got a winner in the silicon lottery.

 

If you look in my build log I have a spread sheet showing each voltage increase with what clocks I was running, and I usually noted what the issue was.  I personally only make small jumps in voltage, 8-10 mV each time the card starts to act up.  I then push as far as I can with that voltage and the process starts all over.  Memory clock is nice, but for these cards core is definitely king; I would be more concerned with your core clock first.  In that spreadsheet I mentioned there is a tab showing the performance gains from running stock RAM clocks to my VERY high 1700MHz OC, and depending on what you're doing the gains are not that substantial.

 

I like to make the small jumps in voltage because one of the combinations of voltages/clocks you find will end up being the 'sweet spot' between performance, voltages, temperatures and clock speeds. 

 

I finally settled with 1200/1500 +87mV offset as it gives me 90-95% of the performance I was getting from ~1300/1700 +200mV.   The card was fully functional at, or very close to, 1300 core but the additional heat and abuse to the card were not worth the small performance gains it was giving me. 

 

*EDIT*  One thing I just remembered with Trixx voltage settings.  It doesn't always apply exactly what you move the slider to.  For example you will move the slider to say +70mV, but when you apply it may move up or down a couple mV, say to 68 or 73.  I don't know why it does this, but I have heard others mention it.  Just bump a couple extra mV if you need to get the voltage increase desired.


Edited by Roboyto - 3/29/14 at 8:03pm
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The controller works in steps. Those steps aren't 1mV but for example 7mV. So it will adjust to those steps wink.gif
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The controller works in steps. Those steps aren't 1mV but for example 7mV. So it will adjust to those steps wink.gif

Ahh, I see.  I never noticed that on other cards I have overclocked.  Some even values took, but not all of them.  Good to know :)

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Try trixx...I don't think any of the R9 290(X) cards are voltage locked.  

In the options for Trixx make sure you enable 'Force Constant Voltage' and disable ULPS.  I had issues with AB with my card right out of the gate, have been using Trixx with great success since.  I got beast card, and Trixx has been able to push it to 1300/1700 cheers.gif

I have 2x 290X, one can do 1300/1730 with +200, and other 1330/1690 with same +200 on trixx thumb.gif and do you have 290 or 290X?
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I have 2x 290X, one can do 1300/1730 with +200, and other 1330/1690 with same +200 on trixx thumb.gif and do you have 290 or 290X?

 

Reference XFX 290 Black Edition


Edited by Roboyto - 3/29/14 at 1:45pm
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I really loved ab but since the new version came out I started having some issues (mainly with setting voltage over +100mv which I need to get a decent OC on my card) so I uninstalled it and switched to trixx (did the whole ddu uninstall of catalyst and everything too) since trixx has native support for up to +200mv. I started with the settings that I had tested for an hour with OCCT error checking and found to be stable in the last build of ab which was 1170mhz/+200mv/1500mhz ddr (the core voltage would usually hover around 1.3). However, now I'm having this new problem...throttling. This wasn't an issue with ab beta 18 and catalyst beta 14.3 (don't remember the build but it was the latest one released in mid march). Whenever I try to run furmark or OCCT gpu, which I think uses an iteration of furmark, within 2 seconds of starting the test my core clock would drop to 700-800mhz and my voltage would drop to around 1.1-1.2 and fluctuate between there. Even with stock clocks and voltage there is a slight drop to around 970mhz/1.02v. It's NOT thermal throttling, unless that kicks in at 60c lol.

I'm able to get full clock speeds in game benchmarks, but I really like using OCCT to test for stability since it's just a bit more concrete than eyeballing for artifacts in game (and I can "set it and forget it" if it makes it past the first 5 minutes error free). I've read a few accounts of this throttling happening to 290(x) users with furmark (OCCT doesn't seem as popular so I couldn't find anything about that) but I've yet to find a solution. I've tried rolling back my drivers, I've switched back and forth between trixx and ab, nothing I seem to do changes. I was able to run OCCT by limiting the framerate but I'm concerned with whether that may skew the results.

Anyone know how to circumvent this power throttling?? I'm sort of at my wits end here. I guess worst case I will have to find a different way to stability test but I love OCCT!
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I really loved ab but since the new version came out I started having some issues (mainly with setting voltage over +100mv which I need to get a decent OC on my card) so I uninstalled it and switched to trixx (did the whole ddu uninstall of catalyst and everything too) since trixx has native support for up to +200mv. I started with the settings that I had tested for an hour with OCCT error checking and found to be stable in the last build of ab which was 1170mhz/+200mv/1500mhz ddr (the core voltage would usually hover around 1.3). However, now I'm having this new problem...throttling. This wasn't an issue with ab beta 18 and catalyst beta 14.3 (don't remember the build but it was the latest one released in mid march). Whenever I try to run furmark or OCCT gpu, which I think uses an iteration of furmark, within 2 seconds of starting the test my core clock would drop to 700-800mhz and my voltage would drop to around 1.1-1.2 and fluctuate between there. Even with stock clocks and voltage there is a slight drop to around 970mhz/1.02v. It's NOT thermal throttling, unless that kicks in at 60c lol.

I'm able to get full clock speeds in game benchmarks, but I really like using OCCT to test for stability since it's just a bit more concrete than eyeballing for artifacts in game (and I can "set it and forget it" if it makes it past the first 5 minutes error free). I've read a few accounts of this throttling happening to 290(x) users with furmark (OCCT doesn't seem as popular so I couldn't find anything about that) but I've yet to find a solution. I've tried rolling back my drivers, I've switched back and forth between trixx and ab, nothing I seem to do changes. I was able to run OCCT by limiting the framerate but I'm concerned with whether that may skew the results.

Anyone know how to circumvent this power throttling?? I'm sort of at my wits end here. I guess worst case I will have to find a different way to stability test but I love OCCT!

 

The card could be throttling so it doesn't blow up under Furmark style loads.  Furmark, and likely OCCT, is a poor test IMHO.  It gives an unrealistic power draw and load to the card.  If you want to test for stability use 3DMark benches or Unigine, or both.  I have grown fond of the FFXIV benchmark, as the game is quite brutal on GPUs.  If you can get stability in that benchmark, I'd bet you are stable for just about anything else.

 

AB and Trixx apply voltage differently if I'm not mistaken; can someone confirm or deny this?  You would have to use GPU-Z or HWInfo to see what your load voltages are with AB and compare them to what you see when running Trixx.

 

I have not tried any of the 14.X drivers since 14.1 came out and did not work well with anything I was running.  I have since scrubbed and gone back to the rock solid 13.12 with no issues whatsoever.

 

My XFX 290 BE, with stock BIOS, peaks VDDC at 1.422V when applying +200mV offset in Trixx. 


Edited by Roboyto - 3/29/14 at 4:16pm
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