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post #19951 of 43912
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I told before that im not going to use FUE pads at all. I want the best result from the block as it comes from shop. So probably i will go with kryographics waterblock+ their passive backplate, i will order some phobya termal pads ( thats the best i can find in uk ), but its 7w/mk. Is it worth to put them under backplate at all?

I use the Phobya pads with my Kryographics block, and they wotk better than the stock ones, so yeah: they'll do fine.

I haven't got a backplate, though, so couldn't comment on that.
@JordanTr, AC Kryographics + backplate out-of-the-box deliver better VRM1 cooling out of four waterblocks tested. The difference between active & normal backplate is small though. The backplate play major role in VRM1 cooling with Krygraphics block.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?288109-Stren-s-R9-290-290x-Water-Block-Testing


You can get the Phobya thermal pad if you want, works well for @Raephen. The stock thermal pad (come with the Kryogrpahics block) should be sufficient though.
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Please that graph is lame. Do you actually believe that an ek block has 44C delta on vrms? Even with ek stock pads they outperform any other block on vrm cooling
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post #19953 of 43912
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Please that graph is lame. Do you actually believe that an ek block has 44C delta on vrms? Even with ek stock pads they outperform any other block on vrm cooling
I have EK waterblock, depends on how much I overclocked & overvolted, I can see the delta temp on the VRM1 in between low to high 30s Celsius. That with just 3d Mark11. So I do believe it can go that high. Do you have any result or review that show EK waterblocks & with stock thermal pad outperform other waterblocks for 290/290x? The review I linked to, the only one I know, so far only have result for four waterblocks for 290/290x.
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What gains are there from a 3770k from a 3570k? Show me, i dont do bf4 multi.

 

I would have trouble finding that information because no one  is running a mid-level CPU with 3 enthusiast level GPUs.  You could sell your 3570k and buy a 3770k for what you would spend on that motherboard.  It has been contested in this thread, more that once, the ability of a 4670k to keep up with (2) 290 cards, let alone 3.  If you don't want to cough up the cash, sell one of your 290X and only use 2.  3 of these cards is overkill for 1440p gaming at 60Hz; if you were running 3D it would probably be a different story.

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post #19955 of 43912
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I have EK waterblock, depends on how much I overclocked & overvolted, I can see the delta temp on the VRM1 in between low to high 30s Celsius. That with just 3d Mark11. So I do believe it can go that high. Do you have any result or review that show EK waterblocks & with stock thermal pad outperform other waterblocks for 290/290x? The review I linked to, the only one I know, so far only have result for four waterblocks for 290/290x.


I agree. Highest VRM1 temp I recorded was 78C running +200mV 1315/1675 clocks in FFXIV benchmark.  That was before I upgraded pads on my XSPC Razor. After I switched that temperature came down to 58C at the same clocks and voltages.

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@JordanTr, AC Kryographics + backplate out-of-the-box deliver better VRM1 cooling out of four waterblocks tested. The difference between active & normal backplate is small though. The backplate play major role in VRM1 cooling with Krygraphics block.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?288109-Stren-s-R9-290-290x-Water-Block-Testing


You can get the Phobya thermal pad if you want, works well for @Raephen. The stock thermal pad (come with the Kryogrpahics block) should be sufficient though.
Does kryographics include thermal pads with their backplate or its just a plain piece of metal? And what thickness should i get for block itself and for backplate? Is it alright 1mm on everything or i should get 0.5 and 1mm as well?
Edited by JordanTr - 3/30/14 at 2:50pm
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On quadfire setup the highest vrm temp was 51'c with the liquid temp being around 34'c with 180mv and gpus grinding at 1240mhz.
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Does kryographics include thermal pads with their backplate or its just a plain piece of metal? And what thickness should i get for block itself and for backplate? Is it alright 1mm on everything or i should get 0.5 and 1mm as well?

For the block, the stock pads are 0.5 mm, I think. But they are stiff pads. The Phobya are much more pliable for a good fit over the components, so I went with 1mm pads.

I don't know which thickness they use on the backplate. Have they listed it on their website?
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Another stupid question ive been wondering if i put phobya termal pad of 0.5mm on gpu itself instead of noctua nt-h1. Maybe i could get better results? smile.gif However with any wb core temp is not a problem, only vrms smile.gif
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Another stupid question ive been wondering if i put phobya termal pad of 0.5mm on gpu itself instead of noctua nt-h1. Maybe i could get better results? smile.gif However with any wb core temp is not a problem, only vrms smile.gif

 

No waterblock manufacturer suggests pads for the core.  The blocks are machined for direct contact to the die, a pad would likely cause the card to warp when tightening everything.  I would just put some paste on there, use the included TIM even.

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Does kryographics include thermal pads with their backplate or its just a plain piece of metal? And what thickness should i get for block itself and for backplate? Is it alright 1mm on everything or i should get 0.5 and 1mm as well?


Aquacomputer suggests 0.5mm for RAM and VRMs;  I would stick with their suggestion.  They are also the only company who requires TIM on the RAM chips.  They must have machined the block to make direct contact to RAM as well; using pads on the RAM for their block could cause warping like I mentioned above.

 

In my thermal pad upgrade write up, I have the installation instructions and thermal pad thicknesses for all the 290(X) blocks listed.

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Does kryographics include thermal pads with their backplate or its just a plain piece of metal? And what thickness should i get for block itself and for backplate? Is it alright 1mm on everything or i should get 0.5 and 1mm as well?

http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?language=en&products_id=3150

 

They say it comes with 'mounting material', which is likely a literal translation from German; I would say it comes with them. 


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