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Hi guys, I just got a good deal open box ASUS R9 290X-DC2OC. After an hour playing Metro 2033 the VRM temperature 1 highest reading is 107c, is that acceptable ? and GPU temp around 86-89c, isn't that too high for a non-reference card? another question, how do u check if the card is throttling or not ? thanks.

yea, that's relatively normal for the non-ref ASUS cards, shouldn't be throttling really, but you can check in CCC overdrive settings, if the load is 100% but core clock is varying below the max then its likely throttling, but at the same time it will also vary slightly depending on how heavy the game/load is.

having a fan blowing towards the backplate I guess could bring the VRM temps down slightly, but otherwise I don't think there's much you can do about those temps without replacing the cooler completely...

edit; oh and VRM max acceptable is usually ~120C for the ASUS non-ref I'm pretty sure, reference/others is usually ~110C I think (ceramic vs soft chokes etc).
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My experience with Hawaii so far has been that you have to design the airflow of your entire system around the heat the GPU puts out.

Normally with a mITX form factor I budget for an additional 10'C coming to the CPU/GPU temps over a half-decent mid-tower. This was the case with my aftermarket 670 and reference 780 Ti -- they ran just hotter and louder than in reviews.

With Hawaii this is much greater than that and there should be an emphasis on exhausting all of that hot air outside of your chassis lest it be recycled. My MSI Gaming 290X is hitting high 80's as well but it seems low positive pressure airflow is not very sustainable with this kind of card.

Not sure how the 500D is in this regard.
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Question that I'd like some opinions on.

If I wanted to run a crossfire or trifire setup, what do you think would give me the greatest performance

(mind you I own all of the hardware already)

3 x 290 same cards
2 x 290 same cards
1x 290x + 1x 290 mixed cards

I'm curious if the 290x+290 will cause issues from the cards capabilities being a bit off. Would this be a case where identical 290's would outperform a mixmatched 290+290x of different clocks?
I read much that tri-fire doesn't scale as well, however, it will still be an improvement over crossfire regardless of the situation it is put correct?

I don't know if I'm just going to buy some waterblocks and use a multiple card setup or do a single card setup. I'm sort of itchin to buy a msi 290x lightning, regardless all these 780ti's performing amazing on benchmarks/games frown.gif

Can anyone speak from experience? tongue.gif I can only trust some reviewers benchmarks so much.

Trying to re-quote my post so it doesn't get buried 6 feet under biggrin.gif

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/crossfire-vs-sli-780ti-780-290x-290-x-dual-triple-quad.195818/

This looks interesting, makes me wonder if its the exact same 7950/7970 deal. Will the 290 just be a clear winner vs the 290x from the performance/cost ratio?
I know the 7950 had a lot of headroom to overclock but I don't know if the 290 is the same with the 290x. I remember some 7950's at almost vddc -0.050 than a 7970 but these 290/290x don't seem that way
I can only search so much rolleyes.gif
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Question that I'd like some opinions on.

If I wanted to run a crossfire or trifire setup, what do you think would give me the greatest performance

(mind you I own all of the hardware already)

3 x 290 same cards
2 x 290 same cards
1x 290x + 1x 290 mixed cards

I'm curious if the 290x+290 will cause issues from the cards capabilities being a bit off. Would this be a case where identical 290's would outperform a mixmatched 290+290x of different clocks?
I read much that tri-fire doesn't scale as well, however, it will still be an improvement over crossfire regardless of the situation it is put correct?

I don't know if I'm just going to buy some waterblocks and use a multiple card setup or do a single card setup. I'm sort of itchin to buy a msi 290x lightning, regardless all these 780ti's performing amazing on benchmarks/games frown.gif

Can anyone speak from experience? tongue.gif I can only trust some reviewers benchmarks so much.

Trying to re-quote my post so it doesn't get buried 6 feet under biggrin.gif

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/crossfire-vs-sli-780ti-780-290x-290-x-dual-triple-quad.195818/

This looks interesting, makes me wonder if its the exact same 7950/7970 deal. Will the 290 just be a clear winner vs the 290x from the performance/cost ratio?
I know the 7950 had a lot of headroom to overclock but I don't know if the 290 is the same with the 290x. I remember some 7950's at almost vddc -0.050 than a 7970 but these 290/290x don't seem that way
I can only search so much rolleyes.gif

well first off I am a reviewer so...sorry about that :)

However you will get a slight bump going with the 2x290 +1x 290x probably in the area of 3-4%

at least that is what I observed when I was trying out mixing the 290(x) series.

Hope that helps, and let me know what results you get I would be interested if you see close to the same results I did.

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I got mine to 1215/1600,i think, with 125mV with stock blower. Temps were fair, but the noise was.. yeah lol

Yeah, the lightning really blows the pants off the Matrix when comparing provided coolers. ASUS never fixed the issue from the DC2, where they're using the GK104 heat pipe design. Sure most people who buy a matrix are going to water cool it, if not use LN2, but it's the premise of buying a Flagship item that has a design flaw.

1150 is pretty good for stock settings, what kind of voltage to they come with out of the box?
I'm on 12hr days right now and won't be able to get any real time with it until this weekend. Another quick and dirty tonight at 1200mhz w/ +125mv. Ran a full loop of Valley artifact free and only topped out at 61*. I've literally spent less than 30 min. oc'ing this card. I 'll hook up the DMM first thing tomorrow and let you know what stock voltage is. Can't imagine it being much above 1.2-1.25v. As for the Matrix, it definitely holds a special place in my heart, as I had a 7970 Matrix that did 1385/1885 w/ 1.36v actual. Got really lucky with that one and have yet to own one that holds a candle to it. I have to say, I am a bit disappointed with the 290X version. Does it have hotwire connectors? Not that it worked well on the 7970 Matrix, but I haven't seen any info or pics that it does.
    
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So i went a little crazy and wanted to see how hard i could push my 290 quad setup. I have finished setting up a 4k eyefinity to play with. I cannot post and benchmark screenies cause they are to large. lol. is it against TOS to link screenshots?
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I'm curious what temps your seeing in crossfire on the top card with the MSI Gaming cards on air? Full load / idle?

I have really only been playing bf4 so far since I put this thing together, and it often gets up into the 80's, I know they can run higher than that, but I still don't like it. Idle temps are usually at 41 Celsius most of the time, occasionally it goes up a few degrees. That's with all settings on ultra but I am only running a single 1080p 60hz monitor so they don't work very hard.
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So i went a little crazy and wanted to see how hard i could push my 290 quad setup. I have finished setting up a 4k eyefinity to play with. I cannot post and benchmark screenies cause they are to large. lol. is it against TOS to link screenshots?

no screenies are against TOS that I know of provided its not anything inappropriate or adult, for super-high res screenies its probably best to upload to some 3rd party site like photobucket or imgur and just link the picture in a spoiler, the forum itself generally handles the max resolution and if its inside a spoiler it wont be loaded until the spoiler is opened (usually).
   
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I'm on 12hr days right now and won't be able to get any real time with it until this weekend. Another quick and dirty tonight at 1200mhz w/ +125mv. Ran a full loop of Valley artifact free and only topped out at 61*. I've literally spent less than 30 min. oc'ing this card. I 'll hook up the DMM first thing tomorrow and let you know what stock voltage is. Can't imagine it being much above 1.2-1.25v. As for the Matrix, it definitely holds a special place in my heart, as I had a 7970 Matrix that did 1385/1885 w/ 1.36v actual. Got really lucky with that one and have yet to own one that holds a candle to it. I have to say, I am a bit disappointed with the 290X version. Does it have hotwire connectors? Not that it worked well on the 7970 Matrix, but I haven't seen any info or pics that it does.

 

I believe it has the hotwire capability..?

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I have really only been playing bf4 so far since I put this thing together, and it often gets up into the 80's, I know they can run higher than that, but I still don't like it. Idle temps are usually at 41 Celsius most of the time, occasionally it goes up a few degrees. That's with all settings on ultra but I am only running a single 1080p 60hz monitor so they don't work very hard.

Not bad for the top card I think. I was curious how the MSI gaming combo did in crossfire temps. Thanks for replying to my question. smile.gif
     
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