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Looks like I'll be joining you guys soon. MSI is replacing my 7970 lightning with a 290 Gaming series. Does anyone have experience with the MSI 290 and can give me some insight on OCing them? They originally gave me a 280x as a replacement but it was defective so they upgraded me for my troubles. The 280x seemed voltage locked so I hope the 290 will be easy to OC on.


I have 4 x MSI 4GB R290X gaming and so far have got all of them to 1150-1165 core with .75mv bump. I am putting blocks on them next week if you want to follow along I will share results with you.
I don't think I'll be doing that, not till the warranty is blown out. I should have another year from my lightning warranty.

But heh, he said it was new but he wanted to test it anyway to make sure. The 280x replacement was also new and the fans were bad. Glad to hear good things about the G series 290 though. I'm not even sure if I will OC it yet, but the difference in hardware between the 7970 I had @ 1225/1700 should not be too far off what the 290 does on stock right? This was implied to me in another thread, so I hope for the best. Considering I only run a single 27" monitor doing 1080p for gaming, I can only imagine the 290 will push 120fps in games like BF4 on Ultra.

why ? msi honors warranty after blocked as long as you dont cause damage to gpu
MSI puts a sticker on it now saying void if removed on a screw for the stock cooler.
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Looks like I'll be joining you guys soon. MSI is replacing my 7970 lightning with a 290 Gaming series. Does anyone have experience with the MSI 290 and can give me some insight on OCing them? They originally gave me a 280x as a replacement but it was defective so they upgraded me for my troubles. The 280x seemed voltage locked so I hope the 290 will be easy to OC on.


I have 4 x MSI 4GB R290X gaming and so far have got all of them to 1150-1165 core with .75mv bump. I am putting blocks on them next week if you want to follow along I will share results with you.
I don't think I'll be doing that, not till the warranty is blown out. I should have another year from my lightning warranty.

But heh, he said it was new but he wanted to test it anyway to make sure. The 280x replacement was also new and the fans were bad. Glad to hear good things about the G series 290 though. I'm not even sure if I will OC it yet, but the difference in hardware between the 7970 I had @ 1225/1700 should not be too far off what the 290 does on stock right? This was implied to me in another thread, so I hope for the best. Considering I only run a single 27" monitor doing 1080p for gaming, I can only imagine the 290 will push 120fps in games like BF4 on Ultra.

why ? msi honors warranty after blocked as long as you dont cause damage to gpu
MSI puts a sticker on it now saying void if removed on a screw for the stock cooler.

they have for quite a while and people still dont have issues you can take out the screw with pliers and elec tape without marking it if it worries you so much, i just use alcohol to get all res off and claim it never had it
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I have no idea, my lightening showed no such thing. I'm sure I could just peel the sticker off and put it back on if I had to. But I have no plans to do heavy overclocking nor do I have the funds right now to do a block.
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MSI puts a sticker on it now saying void if removed on a screw for the stock cooler.

Yeah, all the companies do now as far as I know.
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they have for quite a while and people still dont have issues you can take out the screw with pliers and elec tape without marking it if it worries you so much, i just use alcohol to get all res off and claim it never had it

This is a good idea! Might do that to my XFX card if I ever need to.. Heh
 
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they have for quite a while and people still dont have issues you can take out the screw with pliers and elec tape without marking it if it worries you so much, i just use alcohol to get all res off and claim it never had it

Yeah, seems MSI has publicly posted too correct? I remember seeing posts of reps from peoples support tickets mentioning if the card is not damaged by removal of the HSF that they honor warranty.

I guess that sticker is to scare some people away? I know for other companies it's an instant denial of warranty :/ which really sucks

Then again I read a bunch of stories of people removing HSF on many different manufacturers and never having issue with warranty, who knows
  
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My asus nvidia card had a sticker on it too. Well screw warranty, I volt modded it anyways lol. How unlocked are the asus 290's? I felt compelled to volt mod the 770 since nvidia basically locks the voltage to 1.212v. Is stock amd/asus 290 volts more than enough or is there a lot of usable voltage left on the table? I was tempted by an asus r9 290 today on my lunch break at the local frys but chickened out.
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I am going to be posting and benchmarking 4k Eyefinity, and Crossfire scaling on r9 290 cards from single to quad. These cards are really beast and cossfire scaling is looking pretty good.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1481154/4k-eyefinity-crossfire-scaling-from-1-2-3-4-gpus-benchmarks#post_22094068

Hopefully i posted in the right section, and hope it provides good information along with representing our beloved R9 cards smile.gif
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Hi guys!

Reading this article about the black screens (I still haven't got one though) I started to "investigate" and control how my 12v rail voltages are, especially under load on the pcie rail (I'm using two separate cables, one 8pin and one 6pin) of my Cooler Master 850W Silent Pro M
And I found an "ugly" 11.63-11.50v (gpuz) in idle and low load and a "worse", down to 11.25v (gpuz) or 11.31v (hwinfo64) 12v real voltage after an Unigine Heaven 4.0 bench at 1180/1500 @ +156mv, +50PL headscratch.gif

http://www.xtremeshack.com/photos/20140410139712056164242.jpg

So I started to first of all control and change the position of the two pcie cables connectors plugged on my psu
But I got the very same results:

http://www.xtremeshack.com/photos/20140410139712058149796.jpg
http://www.xtremeshack.com/photos/20140410139712060841855.jpg

In the end I even "tried" to power the 8pin with the 2x4pin molex to 8pin adapter, using two independent molex lines from my psu, the result was worse however, only 11.28v min on the 12v rail and lots of cable mess (at least I tried) thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

http://www.xtremeshack.com/photos/20140410139712062110427.jpg

My psu is about 4 years old, kept with the fan filter, I've even replaced the fan with a better one (a couple of years ago already, becoming dead silent) cool.gif
But should I get worried somehow, does this affect any of my 290's performance in mid oc or its stability?
Or I only have to start considering a nice psu replacement? wth.gif

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Do you have a multimeter? I'd check the voltage on the 12V rail with that, if you have one, before I got a new PSU. I don't think the GPU-Z readings are all that accurate.

Edit: Just checked mine. GPU-Z shows 11.88 at idle and 11.75 under load, while the multimeter showed 11.94 at idle and 11.90 at load. So the voltage drop GPU-Z is reading is either nonexistent, or it is occurring on the card, not on the input. That was checking at the PCIe power plug (I checked the 6 pin and the 8 pin and they were both the same).

Just wondering about my PSU 12v rail and found that both gpuz and hwinfo64 (downside part [GPU #0]) are indeed showing the internal pwm IR 3567 controller (VRM) info only and not those of the +12v real rail
I also found other two (or three) sections of the hwinfo64 about the +12v rail sensors, one comes out from the Nuvoton NCT6776F (main board) and the other one is from the mobo's vrm controller, ChiL CHL8328

And look what those sensors are showing:

http://s30.postimg.org/eeijpj1sh/Cattura.jpg

Absolutely normal values so I ran a quick (10') Linx 0.6.5 cpu stress test and noticed the +12v rail voltages went down a little bit only, still remaining within the +12v range cool.gif

http://s30.postimg.org/qk7qzxgi7/Clipboard01.jpg

Now my 3770K @4.6Ghz is not such a "high power" (TDP) cpu so I found a pic of an older (yet still recent) test with a 2600K @4.7 Ghz (~ 127W TDP) and yet the mainboard +12v rail is absolutely ok:

http://s4.postimg.org/c6keksawb/4_7ghz_offset_Xmp_linx.jpg

Furthermore I've even found one more info (pic) with my Sapphire 7970 @1175/1550 right after a Valley bench (made that pic to point out the lower gpu temps after I changed the tim with the CLU) and right here we have the internal, CHiL controller of the 7970 showing a min voltage of 11.813v (for the gpu dedicated +12v):

http://www.xtremeshack.com/photos/20140131139118931191897.jpg

I agree, the occed 7970 is showing ~ 200W (max) and my R9 290 Tri-X @ 1180/1500 up to 335W but maybe my PSU is still "working"
And I don't really know if I have to worry or not since I still got no black screens yet.
I'll test with the multimeter soon, better with my 290 in OC and check my +12v real instant voltages on the both my motherboard reading points and my pcie plugs and take my final decision smile.gif
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Would love to join the club! 1200 is all for now though!

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What would you guys say is a "Golden" 290? I'm doing 1200MHz at +56mv in Trixx, the RAM is terrible however.

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MSI puts a sticker on it now saying void if removed on a screw for the stock cooler.

Yeah, all the companies do now as far as I know.
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they have for quite a while and people still dont have issues you can take out the screw with pliers and elec tape without marking it if it worries you so much, i just use alcohol to get all res off and claim it never had it

This is a good idea! Might do that to my XFX card if I ever need to.. Heh
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they have for quite a while and people still dont have issues you can take out the screw with pliers and elec tape without marking it if it worries you so much, i just use alcohol to get all res off and claim it never had it

Yeah, seems MSI has publicly posted too correct? I remember seeing posts of reps from peoples support tickets mentioning if the card is not damaged by removal of the HSF that they honor warranty.

I guess that sticker is to scare some people away? I know for other companies it's an instant denial of warranty :/ which really sucks

Then again I read a bunch of stories of people removing HSF on many different manufacturers and never having issue with warranty, who knows

yea but i am too lazy to find it
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Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
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Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
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ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
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Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
AudioAudioOther
Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
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Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Storm Stryker Unknown Pioneer 5.1 
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AMD FX-8350 Gigabyte 990FXA-UD7 R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  
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R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  R7970-2PMD3GD5/OC  F3-2400C10D-16GTX  OCZ Agility 3 120GB  
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OCZ Agility 3 120GB  Seagate Barracuda 1TB  Segate Barracuda 3TB Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Swiftech MCP35X2 Heat Sink Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech Komodo 7970 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
CoolingCoolingOSOS
Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G510 XFX pro 1250w black edition Caselabs MAGNUM M8 Case Razer Naga 
AudioAudioOther
Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
Optical DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
CoolingOSOSMonitor
Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
CaseMouseAudio
Cooler Master Storm Stryker Unknown Pioneer 5.1 
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