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Originally Posted by btemtd View Post

Hi Guys,

I am wanting to do a Quadfire Setup - I have the cards already 290x Reference I have enough Power 1200w + 650w (Add2Psu_Adapter)

All I need is the motherboard and the CPU wchich will be the 4930k or 4960k which should remove any bottlenecks.

I was thinking about the Rampage Extreme 4 But then I thought Maybe the Cards will be 2 close Because of what I am about to consider, and here it is:

I was thinking Of getting a 7 PCIE Motherboard And having the cards Seperated by 1 slot Each If you can picture it? Now On top of this separation I will remove the Standard cooler and in replace it with the GELID Icy Vision Universal VGA Cooler Rev 2 For each Card


What do you think about this guys? Aswell as All this I will have a good Case which will suck HOt air out and suck air in,

This should quite the cards down aswell as cooling them , I know its possible with the ref cards to have them sitting next to each other as they are designed to suck the air out from the outer edge and blow it out the front.. But they do get pretty loud from the sucking.

What do you think of my setup above? with the 1 x PCIE gap between each card and change the standard coolers to GELID Icy Vision Universal VGA Cooler Rev 2 ?? I do not want to Create a massive water cooled setup , I want a simple but effective setup that does not take that much space..

 

People are running into temperature issues with cards that have upgraded coolers from manufacturers in Crossfire.  I don't think any amount of fans would keep the temperature for 4 of these things at bay on air coolers.  

 

If you are going to go with an air cooler, the new Arctic Accelero Extreme 4 would be the only way to do it IMHO.  They have an enormous backplate/heatsink that cools the RAM/VRMs.  The biggest advantage to the new Arctic Extreme IV is you don't have to glue any heatsinks onto RAM/VRMs, so the card can be returned to stock very easily if you need to RMA.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?gclid=CJPA2sLp4L0CFckWMgodVXUAhg&Item=N82E16835186097&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-VGA+Cooling-_-N82E16835186097&ef_id=U0xGFAAAATkoIKT2:20140414203324:s

 

If you have the patience to install 4 of them, then they would be worth it.  I have used the Accelero Twin Turbo II on several occasions, and the Accelero 7970 twice.  They don't disappoint.

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Well this just happened biggrin.gif

With less than a year I went 7950 -> 770 -> 780, now going back to AMD lol
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I bought a XFX R9 290 Black OC edition, with the stock bios and 13.12 drivers on air I could run a OC of 1180/1625 Stable for playing games with MSI AB, (Mem Elpidia went that high because of +13 Aux Voltage).

Benching Firestrike I could go a little bit higher OC and did some 1200/1625 runs that was the max I could do.

I recently installed an EK waterblock.
And also flashed an UEFI capable R9 290 bios because I wanted to use ultra fast boot on my system, I forgot which bios it is have to look that up, still using the 13.12 drivers.

Now I can bench up to 1300 Core clock and 1500 Memory on Firestrike with +200mV on Trixx.

However I'm having huge difficulties finding an OC for gaming again.

For some reason with MSI AB and +13 aux voltage my memory can't go higher then 1250(stock) anymore before crashing in game.(red screen and blue screen hard locks)

Also with +200 I cant go higher then 1150 Core clock anymore., yes maybe 1160 or 1170 but 1180 I get hard locks and black screens.

And to top it all off i've been gaming for a week on 1100/1250 with no problems what so ever, and now yesterday my GPU began throttling during a gaming session, just out of nowhere and I could see huge frame drops and lag.

I am going to flash the ASUS PT1 Bios and see if I'm still having issues.

In the meantime is there anyone who could give some pointers of what might be the problem? Or what could be different, I guess It all could be the Bios switch that caused it or maybe when I reinstalled my OS and MSI AB I forgot to set some settings or with beta 19 instead of beta 18 something changed with AB.

What I would like to have is a 1200/1500 Stable OC for gaming, but I can't use Trixx for that because I can't up aux voltage which I need for higher Memory OC.
And with AB I ran into the problem that I can't go higher then +100mV without doing some mods Ugh.

Can I use GPU tweak with the Asus PT1 bios, is there an option similar to aux voltage? to help memory OC?

If this all happened after changing BIOS I would think that is the problem personally. Try flashing back to stock BIOS and see if performance returns.

Memory OC on these cards is not that important. I have tested with stock RAM clock and very high overclock; up to 1700. Check my Shrunken Beast build log for the spreadsheet listing performance gains from RAM speed. On average for 3dmark, Unigine, and FFXIV benchmark it was only a 5% performance jump.

If you flash the ASUS BIOS, then you should be able to use GPU Tweak. However, I don't know if it has Aug Voltage.

You definitely didn't damage anything when installing the block correct?

Have you tried re-seating the card in the slot? Check all your other connections in the case while you're at it. This can fix all kinds of strange unexplainable issues. I know my card with XSPC backplate makes it a tight fit to get underneath the RAM clips.

Scrub drivers and try reinstalling them.

Maybe try fresh Windows install again.
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anyone get this while loading a map in bf4?


sometimes I will also get this but the cards or game somehow recovers and brings me to the loading screen and I can play fine.
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bf4 is 3 days old on my rig, fresh origin install, I was formating my c drive and putting a fresh windows install as well. 14.3 for one day then I got the 14.4. I mean, I bought my gpu's 1 month apart, so I doubt this is some faulty cards, I think its either bf4 is buggy or the drivers or I got no idea.
it looks like that, from beggining to end (action starts at 0:30)

done the classic hardware debugging of re-seat the cards, swap their places, test each one individually?

looks to me like one of them either has a shot display controller or a bad memory IC, or bad choke/VRM causing lack of power to the board, also check your power rails to be sure your PSU is supplying the voltage it should be.
   
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Well this just happened biggrin.gif

With less than a year I went 7950 -> 770 -> 780, now going back to AMD lol
Congrats!!..looking forward to your experience with them
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ill have to get caught up in a min ! wanted to share with everyone.
since i cant locate my megaman mouse pad megaman himself + rush + met will have to do !
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for open box, it looks unopened to me ...






i have to admit the ek without the crop circles they acctually look good !


sad i cant add it to my loop till i get back from my trip mad.gif
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I currently have a sapphire 290 tri-x and am looking to grab a 2nd in crossfire. In Australia prices have currently come down a lot. My options are

(1) Grab a 2nd hand reference card (ex miner) and slap on a kraken g10 & h55 as well as some extra vrm heat sinks. $430 USD for the card + g10 + h55.

(2) Grab a retail Gigabyte windforcex3 (non oc) currently on sale for $437 USD

(3) Grab another sapphire trii-x for $500

My priorities in order are performance --> noise --> temps

Any input would be amazing.

I personally went for option 3.

My two still running on air - haven't had a chance to research a water system.... definitely the next item i want to look at doing..

Running 3x30 - with 2 of those in xfire. Installing BF4 tonight so will be able to advise.. however on BF3 ultra with 7560x1600 it will struggle to maintain 40 FPS without any tweaks on the settings..

but seriously - these cards will not disappoint, temps on BF3 didn't go above 78 degrees cel (1st Card) 2nd card normally sits below that in temps.
Also i paid 589 for mine in Aus - but i have had mine for a little while now...
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I can get my MSI R9290 Gaming card to 1100/1400 at stock voltages. ASIC is 82.0% but I can't clock the memory any higher. Which bios is it that improves overclocks? Is it the Asus PT1T bios?
Edited by SSJVegeta - 4/14/14 at 4:08pm
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they put the sticker in a place that you must remove it?

i hear all these good things about msi and how they allow after market coolers if no damage is done to the card but, how does that work when theres no sticker? frown.gif im confused!

There were no strikers on my old MSI R7970 Lightning. But R9 290X Gaming has it. Contacted MSI support and two guys answered me that i will loose warranty if i remove them

meh they have not given anyone i know an issue with it yet
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I can get my MSI R9290 Gaming card to 1100/1400 at stock voltages. ASIC is 82.0% but I can't clock the memory any higher. Which bios is it that improves overclocks? Is it the Asus PT1T bios?

 

That BIOS would likely help your core more than the memory, but it doesn't down clock.  Why not try adding voltage to see where you get before switching BIOS?  If you're at 1100 with no extra voltage, odds are you have a pretty good performing card.  My 290, which hits 1300/1700 +200mV, definitely can't hit 1100 core at stock voltages.

 

Do you have Hynix or Elpida memory?  Hynix typically clocks better, but there are a few with some very good performing Elpida cards.

 

MSI Afterburner has the Aux Voltage option for RAM usually, that could help you attain better RAM clocks.

 

Just an FYI, memory clock no where near as important on these cards as core.  That enormous 512-bit bus helps make up for lower clocks.

 

Testing I did with my card

 

 

Find max clocks for your core first and then worry about the RAM.  Just be sure to keep an eye on VRM1 temperatures; ~80C is where most people let up on the voltage/clocks.

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