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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

Multiplayer and not using mantle - you definitely need to oc your cpu. i recommend at least 4.5GHz.


With or without Mantle I get the same FPS. Shouldn't Mantle be helping me out a little bit?
Edited by igrease - 4/15/14 at 3:50pm
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With or without Mantle I get the same FPS. Shouldn't Mantle be helping me out a little bit?

i don't monitor my fps ever since i started using my 290. what i do know is that i can't leave my i7 at stock and ht off when using DX11. only in mantle can i do that. same with BF3 MP. i have to oc my cpu.
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Does anyone know if an EK full cover water block will fit on an MSI R9 290 Gaming? If not, what water block(s) can I use?
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Originally Posted by cephelix View Post

Derrick has said that EK will be releasing a waterblock specifically for the MSI R9 290 Gaming and hopefully that it'll be available for sale on the EK webshop by Wednesday. ETA on when Frozencpu or PPCs is still kinda sketchy.

The stock 290 block wont fit on the MSI Gaming due to the larger capacitors used

on Reds amd build thread hes on here too he was saying the reference ek blocks do fit on the msi gaming cards. that it was old information that they didnt fit. Some other people were saying this same thing to him and thats was his response.
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Originally Posted by igrease View Post

With or without Mantle I get the same FPS. Shouldn't Mantle be helping me out a little bit?

Something seems wrong. With my 7950 @ 1440p and low clocks (950/1400), I get 120~130 FPS for BF3 using low/med settings. Granted my 3570K is at 4.7GHz, but even at stock, there wasn't a big difference.

I know BF4 is a little more demanding than BF3, but you shouldn't be getting that low of a performance using a 290 with a 1080 120Hz monitor.
    
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Does anyone have any insight regarding performance running in pcie 3.0 8x vs pcie 3.0 16x at 4k or higher resolution?
for example 8x 8x 8x trifire vs 16x 8x 16x trifire.

I know the common consensus is it doesn't matter but I haven't seen testing for 4k or higher resolutions.
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Does anyone have any insight regarding performance running in pcie 3.0 8x vs pcie 3.0 16x at 4k or higher resolution?
for example 8x 8x 8x trifire vs 16x 8x 16x trifire.

I know the common consensus is it doesn't matter but I haven't seen testing for 4k or higher resolutions.

more lanes == lower latency and you can get a couple frames difference, but for the most part there shouldn't be a bottlneck on even PCIe 2.0 x8 on the main card, 2.0 x4 however would be pushing it, so if you have PCIe 3.0 you shouldn't have to worry about anything.

4K @ 60FPS == 2GB/s, PCIe2.0 x4 == 2GB/s, so you can see where it becomes a problem if one card has only 2.0x4, said card would be capped at ~60 frames, which for quadfire would be a total of ~240FPS. (assuming the primary had 2.0 x16)
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post #20727 of 43951
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on Reds amd build thread hes on here too he was saying the reference ek blocks do fit on the msi gaming cards. that it was old information that they didnt fit. Some other people were saying this same thing to him and thats was his response.

Really?havent read anything about tht.could u please direct me to the info??
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heres my latest result
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you are right. silicon lottery applies to all cards. if you don't plan on using LN2, then you might as well stick with the ref you have and add the same type. what are your highest clocks on your cards? care to show some benchmarks?

Here was my best result so far. Im not sure if its average above average or below average.
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Originally Posted by cephelix View Post

Derrick has said that EK will be releasing a waterblock specifically for the MSI R9 290 Gaming and hopefully that it'll be available for sale on the EK webshop by Wednesday. ETA on when Frozencpu or PPCs is still kinda sketchy.

The stock 290 block wont fit on the MSI Gaming due to the larger capacitors used
Thanks for the help. I saw something elsewhere saying the capacitors on the MSI card were larger but somewhere else I saw someone say they had a full cover reference water block on it, so I just wanted to clarify.

Edit: I see that Talon720 said something about reference water blocks actually do fit the MSI cards, so I will 'stay tuned' for more information.
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Thanks for the help. I saw something elsewhere saying the capacitors on the MSI card were larger but somewhere else I saw someone say they had a full cover reference water block on it, so I just wanted to clarify.

now i'm confused as well. all i know is the EK rep said that they're releasing the msi r9 290 gaming compatible full cover block tomorrow
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