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Originally Posted by Paul17041993 View Post

might be a reason behind that...

your best bet is either RMA or see if you can underclock till its stable again.

Yeah, its really strange. I did down-clock it to 1000 mhz and the Artifacting is indeed reduced.

+ REP for the suggestion smile.gif

I was also having some other ideas on my way to work that I can try when I get home.

Perhaps my power-supply has degraded. It is an old 680watt OCZ. I have never had a problem with it, but somewhere something has changed.
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Just because my car can go 140mph, doesn't mean I'm going to jump in it and drive that fast redlining the engine, until I run out of gas..refill the tank and do it again.

Some cards have no problem doing this, that is true, but it's still not good for them. Just because they can, doesn't mean you should.

The card temps were absolutely great and the card operated with core and VRMs in 70c range because I was not even mining power hungry algorithm. The total computer was drawing under 300 watt of power.

I suspect the Gigabyte Windforce in particular is not a reliable product regardless of application.

just as long as we are using a car analogy:

Cars are engineered to withstand a range of operating circumstances from the owner perspective. For example, a car might have an elderly owner who drives it infrequently, on the other hand, it could be owned by a delivery business. Ford, for example, tested the durability of their eco-boost system my using the same engine continuously(hard) for 150K miles. They actually transplant the engine between vehicles to complete different segments of the test.

This reminds me of the time that I bought a 660 TI from EVGA and they refused to honor the $20 rebate because of some BS (their document scanning was terrible quality and rejected my receipt twice). I said in the EVGA forum that I was unhappy and would not consider them in the future. People chimed in and said stuff to the effect that you should never consider a rebate when making a purchase decision - because you frequently don't get them. Those people were entirely missing the point.
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Originally Posted by DeadlyDNA View Post

Last I recall reading and its been a while but a single gpu was barely if at all held back by a cpu. I think your gaming resolution and setting cs would be more important .when I benchmarked my r9 290s on a single 1080p screen on many benchmarks my performance didnt really increase at all. Now that I think about it my 680gtxs also faced similarities when single screen.

give it a whirl I would like to see how it works for you.

After I get everything set up and start doing the benchmarks I'll post a link here.
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

it's 14.3 that's causing the throttling when you apply voltage at higher clocks. try 13.12 or 13.11 for benching.
But in game it didnt throttle. Btw i just installed 14.4 (wiped old ones with ddu ofcourse) smile.gif
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it's 14.3 that's causing the throttling when you apply voltage at higher clocks. try 13.12 or 13.11 for benching.

YES I experienced this while benching 4k eyefinity. I also found I may be having a similar issue after rolling back to 13.12
I havent had much time to sit down and figure out my issue. I know its not temps but I got worse performance once I overclocked all 4 cards now. It sucks because im trying to post benchmarks that reflect actual performance issues at 4k eyefinity.
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Originally Posted by Faster_is_better View Post

Does that DC2 cooler problem effect the 280x version? I'm running 4 of them for mining and they stay cooled well considering the ambients. Although at least 2 of them have developed a nasty fan rattle at high fan rpm, if they stay at high rpm for to long. I think the bearings may dry out or something, but once they come back down in rpm they are quiet again...

what ASUS dont tell you is how cheap their DCII cooler actually is, its no more expensive then the reference blower.

and yea it generally affects the 280X too, the 79x0s (and 280X DCIIV2 and matrix rebadges) are just as bad, lower fan on my 7970DCIIT is shot and only good on <40%, ASUS's RMA is just the card sitting on a shelf for a month and they ship it back to you.

I guess I will have to do some more research if I buy into the 290 series at some point. I was under the impression the ASUS DC2 were still great as they had been in the past, but if they ASUS are skimping on their coolers and RMA I may have to look to some other vendors.
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So I've done a bunch of testing and I can't seem to find anything wrong with my fresh out of RMA Tri-X. In fact, it's actually a heck of a lot better than my old card was. It runs cold as ice (maxing out at 70c in Heaven/Valley with 60ish% fan speed at +75mv, or 74c with the auto fan), and is completely stable at 1125/1500 +75mv. The only issue is when I try to run it with my Asus I just get massive stuttering and some weird occasional crashes and blackscreens. I don't get any stuttering with the Asus card running solo, but as I have stated on here numerous times before I have to underclock the memory on that card to stay stable.

Sending in my Asus for RMA seems like it will accomplish nothing as numerous users have reported on here Asus just takes forever and then eventually sends the card back to you and you're out $25-$30 for shipping. I'm at a complete loss of what to do here now as it seems like I am just totally stuck with a $600 paperweight.

That's really sad to hear, DC2 coolers were always top notch in the previous series. ASUS RMA just gone downhill recently or what? I plan to run my 280x until the fans completely lock up or are just bad enough that they warrant an RMA, unless they get sold off first.
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I guess I will have to do some more research if I buy into the 290 series at some point. I was under the impression the ASUS DC2 were still great as they had been in the past, but if they ASUS are skimping on their coolers and RMA I may have to look to some other vendors.
That's really sad to hear, DC2 coolers were always top notch in the previous series. ASUS RMA just gone downhill recently or what? I plan to run my 280x until the fans completely lock up or are just bad enough that they warrant an RMA, unless they get sold off first.

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Woooohoooo just won a second sapphire 290x £295 off ebay Brand new in box! the seller had 2 others that went for £270 the R9 cards are really bombing on ebay at the moment!
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no problem, i. please include details on your settings including cpu, ram and such.

This is just a rough diagnosis.

Computer Spec-
GPU ~ MSI r9 290 @ 1047/1250
CPU ~ i5 2500k @ 4.0ghz
RAM ~ G. Skill 16gb 1600

Fresh Windows 7-
AMD 14.4 Beta Drivers
Unparked CPU Cores

Battlefield 4 - MANTLE
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Field of View 90
Resolution Scale 100%
Custom Ultra
Antialiasing Deffered - OFF
Antialisasing Post - OFF

While playing Battlefield 4-
GPU usage is not steady.
Average frame rate is less. 85 ~ 105 FPS
Minimum frame rate is less. 55~60 FPS
Maximum frame rate is less. Up to 154 FPS
Frame rate not nearly as steady.
Frame rate drops substantially when certain things happen.

Fresh Windows 8.1-
AMD 14.4 Beta Drivers
Unparked CPU Cores

Battlefield 4 - MANTLE
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Field of View 90
Resolution Scale 100%
Custom Ultra
Antialiasing Deffered - OFF
Antialisasing Post - OFF

While playing Battlefield 4-
GPU usage is steady, no fluctuations.
Average frame rate is higher. 100 ~ 120+ FPS
Minimum frame rate is higher. 70 ~ 80 FPS
Maximum frame rate is higher. Up to 200 FPS
Frame rate incredibly stable.
No frame rate drops.



Overall just better gaming performance in Battlefield 4 with Windows 8.1.
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I have a ASUS DCUII 290 with a AIO and fans blowing at the vrm. 83.2% asic elpida memory

I can finish 3dmark11 with some artefacting on 1220/1300 with 25(around +250mw?) offset in MSI afterburner command which is only around 1.244v underload. I think the high asic is the reason why the voltage is low compared to my past 290s.

However when I increase to 2C (around +280mw) offset in MSI afterburner the voltage is 1.25~1.28v under load with the same clocks but my computer shuts off in 2~3 seconds into 3dmark11. I feel like there overvoltage protection or some limitation on the asus board which is supposed to have improved stability for its vrm

My temperatures are <80 for vrm and <70 for core

anyone have similar experience?
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