Originally Posted by Faster_is_better
That's too bad, I haven't had to RMA to many items and all have gone smoothly. I also haven't had to RMA anything for a while though and degradation of service is entirely possible. Then you get horror stories from all manufacturers, so its a bit of a crapshoot altogether.
That was quite lazy of them on the cooler, The whole rear end of the cooler looks to be mostly useless since that pipe don't even touch the die.
It is too bad, I have owned a seemingly uncountable number of ASUS products over the years. But it does seem they are on the downswing. From mispackaged, to DOA, and sudden unexpected failure of devices over the last 2 years...I am not in the ASUS camp anymore.
I have said this a couple times in this thread, but I don't know if anyone has given it a shot...I think a copper shim could fix, or enhance, the cooling ability of the DC2 coolers by making contact with all the pipes. /shrug
Originally Posted by Tokkan
My doubt wasn't if it will, but how severe it will be. My Phenom is running at 4175Mhz with a 3.2Ghz NB.
Given certain scenarios it will happen with every CPU, but how hard would it be and would like to document it for further Phenom II users.
If my Phenom II is bottlenecking my 290 only in Skyrim and most other applications it will push the 290 usage to above 90% I would be pretty well satisfied cause that would be money I would save for the long run.
But if the 290 usage in games like BF4 is 50%~60% I would be very disappointed because I wouldn't be able to take full advantage of the GPU and would have to buy a new motherboard/cpu, something that I want to avoid for later iterations of Intel/AMD CPU's.
I plan on seeing how hard it is bottlenecking.
UPS is taking long but after the weekend I should have the card in my rig and I'll start with the testing/benching.
If it plays at the settings the card can handle with smoothness and only losing about 10% performance I'll be happy because regardless of losing 10% it'll still be a 200% increase in GPU performance over my old 6850 crossfire, plus increased smoothness from being single card and not being VRAM capped. Also power consumption will be lower when compared to the crossfire. All in all should be win win.
I had an X4 960T, which unlocked to an X6 1605T, that I was running at 4.1GHz with a similar HT speed(can't remember exactly), with my HD7870 that I was running on an ASRock 890FX board. I switched to a 3570k and an ASRock Z77 Extreme6 board, and graphics performance jumped ~25% for games and benchmarks; all other hardware/windows/GPU drivers were identical. Does anyone know if there is a large difference in performance between 890FX and 900 AMD boards for graphics performance? That could have been the cause, but I don't know since I switched to Intel when the 8350 was a flop.
If you can get a great deal on that 3770k and Z77 board I would say do it. The 3770k is still a solid chip and will continue to be for probably the next ~3 years, or possibly more.
Originally Posted by bbond007 The card temps were absolutely great and the card operated with core and VRMs in 70c rangePerhaps my power-supply has degraded. It is an old 680watt OCZ
Cars are engineered to withstand a range of operating circumstances
from the owner perspective. For example, a car might have an elderly owner who drives it infrequently, on the other hand, it could be owned by a delivery business. Ford, for example, tested the durability of their eco-boost system my using the same engine continuously(hard) for 150K miles. They actually transplant the engine between vehicles to complete different segments of the test.
This reminds me of the time that I bought a 660 TI from EVGA and they refused to honor the $20 rebate because of some BS (their document scanning was terrible quality and rejected my receipt twice). I said in the EVGA forum that I was unhappy and would not consider them in the future. People chimed in and said stuff to the effect that you should never consider a rebate when making a purchase decision - because you frequently don't get them
. Those people were entirely missing the point.
70C is certainly better than the 84C you had mentioned previously.
Depends on how old for the PSU. My 650W Rosewill Capstone easily handles my 4770k @ 4.5GHz, 16GB RAM 2400MHz, 290 up to 1300/1700, water pump and 4 drives.
They are designed to withstand a range of operating circumstances. However, heavy use from a delivery driver is not the same as running that engine at redline for hours and hours; that would be the equivalency of mining. This is one of the risks of mining though, you push the card to 100% for hours, days, or weeks at a time and if the card wasn't 100% proper to begin with, it will fail earlier than normal. Also, a lot
could have happened in the few weeks the other guy owned the card. If it was a secondary GPU, it probably did not have had a monitor plugged into it
You could just chalk this up to poor luck with chips...it happens. Recently just went through this with a friend of mine. Ordered a PowerColor 7870 and it worked, but exhibited some strange issues during gaming and video playback especially; After testing on 2 different MoBo/CPUs with fresh Windows installs, it was returned to NewEgg. Ordered a VisionTek 280X in its place, it came DOA. RMAd the DOA and now he is very happy with his 280X, with a lifetime warranty, for $309.
I have had great luck with rebates; I bought my Wii U with rebate cards from PC parts. Submit them ASAP and triple check you have everything required for it to be processed without issue.
Originally Posted by cennis
I only have 1 290 and 1 4770k running on a 1000W xfx platinum that I don't think is faulty.
I believe its a power off but I will check again when I'm home.
Black screen is usually instability/lack of voltage right? My issue happens when I put more than 20(+200mv) in msi ab command line ie. 25, 2c, or 30. I only put that much voltage because this card seem to be running a much lower voltage than my old 290 where +200mw is like 1.266~1.28v (62% asic) while this one is 1.19~1.211v
My experience, with both of my 290s, has been that a black screen more than likely happened when pushing the memory too far. Core speed too high or lack of voltage always meant: artifacts, tearing, or screen flickering.
If you are getting to 1200 core with only ~1.24V, then you are doing pretty good. My XFX 290 BE has 80.4% and for full bench/gaming stability at 1200/1500 I need 1.313V; +87mV in Trixx. +200mV & +50% Power Limit put my 290 over 1.4V
Have you increased the Power Limit as well?
Have you tried a different OC utility? GPU Tweak is usually pretty good. Trixx has always given me the best results.
Originally Posted by Mercy4You "ASUS's RMA is just the card sitting on a shelf for a month and they ship it back to you."
I have to deny that!
It's 2 months
Originally Posted by Paul17041993
that's very true for my first RMA attempt...
Originally Posted by Mercy4You
Well, it's a bloody shame, ASUS must loose many customers this way. I wonder if they really care...
Have you guys tried calling in the RMA to ASUS? I submitted the RMA for my 7870 online and waited 2 weeks without as much as a peep from ASUS regarding what the hell was going on. I called in the RMA one night, and had RMA approval by noon the next day. When I called I asked if they had any information regarding my online RMA request, and they did NOT...what a joke. I called in the RMA on 1/21/14, shipped it the next day, and received a replacement card on 2/11/14.
I'm one of those people that they have lostEdited by Roboyto - 4/18/14 at 4:40pm