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Just leaked.
You can use up to +200mV with Trixx, I'd try that before I flashed the PT1. I can't remember if the PT1 gets rid of Vdroop or not, but that's the only real way it would help you with the same voltage, and using Trixx would let you simulate that by using the higher offset.

Thanks for the info didn't know trixx could do +200mV.

Unfortunately, I tried 1200 core with +200mV and it gave me a ton of lines on my monitor.

It was the same kind of thing that happens when I try to overclock my qnix monitor while overclocking my 290x xfire setup.

I really think there is just something "wrong" with my qnix.

I have to choose between 1000mhz core / 110hz on monitor, or 1150mhz core / 60hz stock.

Otherwise I get lines and distortion. Not sure what the cause is maybe I just lost the monitor lottery. Gonna be replacing this thing as soon as a 4k monitor with the specs I want comes out.
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post #21032 of 43977
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Can you do a run at 1200/6000 and show me your graphics score for 3dm11 P?
I an getting 17200 graphics score with tess OFF, I dont think 45mhz/125mhz more will bring me 3500 points up
also with 1220/5000 I get 17200.
Something wrong with my elpida?

on 14.4 drivers, 13.12 was similar never broke 18000.
I notice that sometimes my utilization drops to 95%~ but my clocks never throttle

There is nothing wrong with your Elpida, it's average. Elpida typically has a smaller chance of overclocking well compared to Hynix.  I have seen both scenarios of fantastic Elpida, and crap Hynix...just luck of the draw.  My first 290 had Hynix and could only go to 1350.

 

RAM clocks do practically nothing for 3DMark11, especially on performance settings.  I don't even gain 2% when pushing RAM up to 1700. 

 

My best run with Tess ON is 16312. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251505

 

Best run with Tess OFF is 17940.  If I had a 6-core I would be tickling 20k I'm pretty sure.  http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251499

 

Here is 1200/6000 for reference as you requested: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251540  I am running 4770k @ 4.5GHz with 16GB RAM @ 2400MHz

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post #21033 of 43977
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There is nothing wrong with your Elpida, it's average. Elpida typically has a smaller chance of overclocking well compared to Hynix.  I have seen both scenarios of fantastic Elpida, and crap Hynix...just luck of the draw.  My first 290 had Hynix and could only go to 1350.

RAM clocks do practically nothing for 3DMark11, especially on performance settings.  I don't even gain 2% when pushing RAM up to 1700. 



My best run with Tess ON is 16312. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251505

Best run with Tess OFF is 17940.  If I had a 6-core I would be tickling 20k I'm pretty sure.  http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251499

Here is 1200/6000 for reference as you requested: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251540  I am running 4770k @ 4.5GHz with 16GB RAM @ 2400MHz

Thats some ridiculous graphics scores..
What voltages was it underload?

Also I have made some progress on my DCUII 290 having blacks screen when I increase over 250mw voltage at a previously stable clock. I flashed PT1T bios and that problem has went away, put 1.375v under load in the card without black screen.
vrm reaches 116c probably not that good but at least we know the pcb has no limitations, but the BIOS has problems. Not sure if another manufactures bios will work as well as PT1T. Don't like how gpu doesn't downclock
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Originally Posted by rdr09 View Post

thanks for testing 14.4. i am switching between 13.11 and 14.3 (mantle).

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8190009

got some 19600 with tess off at 1200/1500

Thanks
post #21035 of 43977
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Thats some ridiculous graphics scores..
What voltages was it underload?

Also I have made some progress on my DCUII 290 having blacks screen when I increase over 250mw voltage at a previously stable clock. I flashed PT1T bios and that problem has went away, put 1.375v under load in the card without black screen.
vrm reaches 116c probably not that good but at least we know the pcb has no limitations, but the BIOS has problems. Not sure if another manufactures bios will work as well as PT1T. Don't like how gpu doesn't downclock

 

Glad to see that you have solved the black screen issue.  116C on VRM :devil: Holy cow, that's definitely not good for long term use!  I would work on getting that temp under control ASAP. 

 

I put Fujipoly Extreme on my Powercolor Devil R9 270X in place of thermal tape, and it dropped VRM1 temps by 7C(10%) on that card.  The Ultra Extreme would probably do even better in your case.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1478544/the-devil-inside-a-gaming-htpc-for-my-wife-3770k-corsair-250d-powercolor-r9-270x-devil-edition/10

 

 

Voltage under load

 

The lack of downclock is why I haven't tried the PT1T BIOS personally; I know I could put it on the 2nd BIOS.  My card performs well enough in stock XFX configuration...I don't want to tempt fate and blow it up while trying to push it further since 1300/1700 is pretty good already.  Killing it wouldn't really bother me that much, but getting a dud overclocker as a replacement definitely would.

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Heaven h20




Matrix's LN2 bios max settings on GPU Tweak and XCB board




Edited by centvalny - 4/21/14 at 2:18am
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My previous point was it seems to change. What the max fps "people can see" worry less about what people tell you you can see and more about what you can see
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Okay 60 fps or 60 hz is the best answer. For games 120 hz is better just means the screen is going to move and refresh quicker.

this seems to be a good article to describe hz or frps

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2379206,00.asp
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To be honest, I think 120hz smoothness is partly placebo. I can understand the difference between 30hz and 60hz is perceptible but the craze strikes me as very similar to the Audiophile craze.
Sound can actually be perceived as better if the user is convinced there is some inherent superiority. That being said, I have seen some truly astounding Audiophile setups which sound amazing but how much of that quality is derived from real engineering improvements or simply clever marketing?

I have also encountered blinded tests where most participants cannot perceive the difference in motion between 120hz and 60hz. Yet there are many gamers in the wild that swear by their 120hz setups.

Basically, 120hz exists for 3D but there was a secondary marketing angle in having a "superior" motion. However, like Audiophiles, the technology is there for hardcore image motion aficionados.

Thx guys for sharing some new insights thumb.gif

Went back from 120 to 100Hertz. Cap my frames @90 FPS now, much less tearing and still very smooth gameplay...

Less heat GPU, CPU load from 100%@ core 4 to 80% smile.gif
Edited by Mercy4You - 4/21/14 at 6:48am
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There is nothing wrong with your Elpida, it's average. Elpida typically has a smaller chance of overclocking well compared to Hynix.  I have seen both scenarios of fantastic Elpida, and crap Hynix...just luck of the draw.  My first 290 had Hynix and could only go to 1350.

RAM clocks do practically nothing for 3DMark11, especially on performance settings.  I don't even gain 2% when pushing RAM up to 1700. 



My best run with Tess ON is 16312. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251505

Best run with Tess OFF is 17940.  If I had a 6-core I would be tickling 20k I'm pretty sure.  http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251499

Here is 1200/6000 for reference as you requested: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8251540  I am running 4770k @ 4.5GHz with 16GB RAM @ 2400MHz

i think your ram sppeds makes the difference. this with 1600 . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7748882
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i need Matrix bios , for R9 290pcs+ , some upload and link? thank you smile.gif
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i need Matrix bios , for R9 290pcs+ , some upload and link? thank you smile.gif


Have you tried the video bios collection.


http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/
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