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I have asic 78.7 1100Mhz without adding voltage
Tht's wht i dont understand.some say asic value is directly related to oc ability.some say it's an unreliable,arbitrary value.
Whtever it is,i'll probably need to put mine under water + change my board n cpu to see better scores

Dave Bauman (spelling?) remarked on beyond3d 9 or so months ago that gpu-z's ASIC rating for AMD GPUs was flat-out incorrect, and to pay no respect to the value it spit forth. That was GCN 1.0, I believe, but I doubt much has changed. I'll try and dig up the remark.
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Originally Posted by TripleTurbo View Post

Dave Bauman (spelling?) remarked on beyond3d 9 or so months ago that gpu-z's ASIC rating for AMD GPUs was flat-out incorrect, and to pay no respect to the value it spit forth. That was GCN 1.0, I believe, but I doubt much has changed. I'll try and dig up the remark.

The comment was about Hawaii specifically.
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ASIC "quality" is a misnomer propobated by GPU-z reading a register and not really knowing what it results in. It is even more meaningless with the binning mechanism of Hawaii.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1808073&postcount=2130
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Find hwinfo and download it you might also be able to see vrm1 temps in gpuz some cards do some dont. check the vram temps make sure there under 65C. Also how many and what type rads. The 290Xs usually run under 50C core and vrm1(more important temp then gpu on these) under 55C - vrm2 under 50c but depends on the rads.Looks good though did you get the back plate that helps lower the temps also thumb.gif

I had a 280 30mm Alphacool and 240 40mm XSPC rad and everything was all messed up. I am swapping out my case, but I only had fans on the 280 (and I stupidly put them on with airflow going the wrong direction), and because of how my case was shaped, I had no fans on the 240. rolleyes.gif Anyway, temps were good, but I assume that when I get my new case and get fans on everything pointing the correct direction then temps should be even better!

New case is due Thurs, I'll update after leak testing.
    
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Right-Click on the upper left hand corner of the GPU-Z window, and choose "Read ASIC Quality".

VRM, not VRAM.  Probably just a typo, but they are very different things smile.gif

Personally I add mV in small increments, around 10mV each time and see how far you can go.  This way you can find the 'sweet spot' blend of volts, clocks and temps.  When you get artifacting, tears, flickers ETC you know it's time for more voltage.

Only increase core clock at first, it is far more important than RAM speeds on these cards.  This will also reduce confusion of wondering if the core clock, or RAM clock, is causing your instability.

Too high of a core clock, or not enough voltage, always gave me artifacting, tearing, or screen flickering.  Pushing RAM too far was nearly always black screens or lockups.

Keep the power limit at +50

Force Constant Voltage in Trixx/AfterBurner

VRM1 is the temp to watch most closely, once you're in the ballpark of 80-90C is when you need to be concerned.  If temps get too high on the VRM1 then thermal pad upgrades can help drastically;  Check link in my sig for info.

Hopefully you have a champ OCer like mine biggrin.gif

Warning: Sweet 3DMark Score Inside :D (Click to show)

I have same/similar card depending on if you have BE or not.  To get to 1100 without voltage is a good sign so far. 

Best of luck to you thumbsupsmiley.png

Thanks for the info! The VRM was an auto-correct typo on my phone that I didn't catch, tongue.gif. My VRM1 temp didn't go above 65, and if you check my previous post about my dumb-as-crap rad setup, then that's actual pretty impressive!

I have an XFX Reference 290x, not a BE :/. Thinking about adding in a 2nd card too, since they are so cheap (relatively) on eBay right now.

Edit: sorry for the double post, I wasn't sure how to multi-quote from different pages...
    
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HOMECINEMA-PC3930k@5204@2428 TRI 290 1100@1250 P30704 13.11 B 9.5 Tess off applaud.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8255134
My highest Pscore ever wheee.gif
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Been back a few pages and not seen this asked. Is the higher price of the 290X worth it over the 290? I am deciding between these cards, Sapphire TriX series.
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Please explain I see 2 x 290X and 2 x 8 pin adapters.

shared PCB, temps are generally lower then air cooling due to water on the cores, this might even have the cherrypicking that the 7990 had which means the cores themselves would have an extra little efficiency boost.

overall a 295X2 would be 10-20% more efficient then 2x290X on air, while being fairly low in noise production and only requiring 2+1 slots (ie; extra optional slot for giving the fan breathing room).

2x290X on fullcover waterblocks however there wouldn't be much of a difference, but in that case a 295X2 would only take 2 (or 1 even) slots on either its stock or on a fullcover block and many people would find this usefull in compact rigs. overall Id find the price of it perfectly justified, especially compared to its rivals...
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http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-Radeon-R9-295X2-Review-Hawaii-x-2/

500W vs 250*2, so none.

I'll admit it saves 2 PCIe slots, and PCIe bandwidth, but that's about it. According the papers anyways. Maybe it's like the GTX 750ti and uses significantly less power than the spec sheet.

that's the max TDP, not at all related to efficiency, and you cant even compare to a single 290X either due to different CPU load etc

if you look at the benchmarks you linked, card itself is only pulling ~400W by itself really, might not even be that, + its outperforming the 290X crossfire quite a lot...
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Been back a few pages and not seen this asked. Is the higher price of the 290X worth it over the 290? I am deciding between these cards, Sapphire TriX series.

yes and no, it depends on whether you have a large res screen and what sort of cooling you want, most go for either the large custom cooler cards or waterblocks.

if you want to go a step further, multiple 290s are a good choice, albeit you have a small risk of crossfire issues.
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HOMECINEMA-PC3930k@5204@2428 TRI 290 1100@1250 P30704 13.11 B 9.5 Tess off applaud.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/8255134
My highest Pscore ever wheee.gif

Very nice there thumb.gif

Should be going pretty good in the higher res benches as well now you have a 3rd yeah?
 
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yes and no, it depends on whether you have a large res screen and what sort of cooling you want, most go for either the large custom cooler cards or waterblocks.

As mentioned it would be the Sapphire TriX series, 290 or 290X. I don't have a large screen resolution but might soon have a 3 monitor setup. It would be air cooled, I only want a single card setup.
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As mentioned it would be the Sapphire TriX series, 290 or 290X. I don't have a large screen resolution but might soon have a 3 monitor setup. It would be air cooled, I only want a single card setup.

Could always go for the Vapor-X when it releases if that's more pleasing to your eyes, i find the Tri-X to be a bit ugly imo.

Oh wait, you said single card, ok you want a 290x then. More power the better (so long as you don't mind spending a little more) smile.gif

PCS+, Tri-X, MSI Gaming and the Gigabyte Windforce cards are the best ones out afaik.
 
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