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Well testing the memory out with stock clock (1080) I can get 1600 (6.4Ghz effective) on the memory. Then I can get 1180 on the core and run the render just fine. I know once I get to 1190 it blocks up and freezes... I guess my core is just stuck until there's a bios editor for the R series. Think I'll run Valley 1.0 for a few hours see how stable it is exactly.

From what others have said earlier in this thread, a lock up is often indicative of vRAM clocks being less than stable with a given GPU Core setting. Did this happen at 1190 core with the vRAM at stock or with the vRAM up at 1600?
     
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What do y'all use for stability testing an overclock you intend to use for 24/7 use? I've asked that before but didn't really get a solid answer. I mean normally I run OCs through a benchmarking suite, and if it passes them all, I consider the benchmarking results valid, if it artifacts, I won't submit the scores to a leaderboard... but for 24/7 usage, like regular gaming type, I want to be sure it's more stable so I don't crash in the middle of a game I may be playing online or something.

Valley? Heaven? I'm thinking maybe the 3DMark FireStrike Demo on a loop? That's almost constant 100% load on both GPUs and it's quite long with minimal "scene cuts" where the cards might get the load lightened up a bit.
     
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Hi guys, which one of the r9 290's you'll recommend for NZXT H2 case? I've heard that XFX one needs a goooood airflow, but it also one the most silent ones. Will Windforce be better?

Are you planning to crossfire?

If you are then you can consider below:
Do you perhaps have a side panel that can mount an extraction fan? From the website, I only see a plain side panel, 2x120mm at the front and one 120mm at the rear. Your enemy will be heat buildup, especially from cards that have fins that blast hot air sideways because the top card has to operate with hot air from the bottom card.

Blower fans might help a lot with the heat buildup (i.e the reference one) but I don't think you will be perfectly satisfied with the noise vs performance. That being said, your case is designed to dampen and contain internal noise.

Alternatively, if you want AIB, you might want to look at the HIS R9 290 IceQ. I mention it because it has a vertical heatsink fin pattern which minimises hot air being blasted directly from the bottom card to the top card, with about 30% being exhausted at the rear. However, this card is quite rare from what I've seen, I also don't personally know anyone who has one.

Your case is tricky because its a positive pressure system with a priority on low noise rather than brute airflow.

If you aren't planning to crossfire, then heat buildup is a non-issue

I'd consider the PowerColor PCS+. It takes 3 slots but has excellent cooling + silent operation as a result, great price too. Plus, it can be very readily cooled with the NZXT G10 mod (it has independent VRM1 and VRM2 cooling) or even full scale water cooling in the future should you wish.

Windforce had a bad rep early ish on from poor performance, I don't know if it has been resolved. If it has then its a viable contender though not quite as good as the PCS+. I believe it was a little weak on the core cooling at low fan RPMs compared to the other 3 fan coolers.

Sapphire Tri X, Vapor X, XFX DD and MSI Gaming are all viable silent alternatives too. I'll walk you through each one's characteristics.

The Tri X is 2 slots so you won't lose as many expansion slots, similar pricing to the PCS+ though has weaker VRM cooling and slightly worse core cooling. You can place an EK backplate if you can get your hands on M2.5 8mm screws to improve the VRM cooling. You can get those screws from Helipal. The fans are dead silent up to 50% (in my HAF 932 case with a mesh side panel) you might not be able to hear them up to 60% with your dampened case.

The Vapor X is about 2.5 slots, similar cooling capacity to the PCS+, has much much stronger VRMs which are better cooled. Biggest issue IIRC is cost. I heard EK are releasing a waterblock for this card so getting one doesn't necessarily preclude you from WC.

The XFX DD is extremely silent and compact. Biggest weakness is that the cooler has one of the least cooling capacities so you will have higher core and VRM temps. Actually, these are quite cheap, most of them are on special here in Australia. Bilko can better fill you in on these since he has one.

The MSI Gaming is an interesting card, it has greater cooling capacity than the DD but not as much as the triple fan cards yet is more compact but not as compact as the DD. The fans are really quiet up to about 60% then it introduces a very characteristic high pitched woosh thereafter. It's biggest strength to me is the excellent cooling capacity to volume ratio on this card, however, theres 2 versions available and you pretty much won't be able to tell. Theres a stock standard reference version (which means it can be watercooled) with the Twin Frozr cooler, however, theres also another custom Gaming version which has a slightly upgraded VRM assembly. The one with the upgraded VRM sacrifices the ability to be watercooled but it has much better VRM temperatures, overvoltage headroom and more robust protection against coil whine.

Or you can go balls out and get the Lightning, pretty much has no drawbacks except cost.

The highlighted is not true. I have the MSI R290X Twin Frozr game edition cards with the taller caps and EK has come out with a rev 2.0 for the 290/290X version of these cards.

 

Also, If you call MSI tech support (I actually did this) and read them the serial numbers of all four MSI 4GB R290X Game Editions, they confirmed that I had the rev 2.0 (taller capacitors)

 

BTW, when I ran the Twin Frozr version and the lightning, the difference was 3c

 

 

 

 

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Ok, I usually try to push my core first, find something stable, then work on the memory. I couldn't get past 1180 1450, it would lock up even 1460. I decided to do it backwards since my memory is Hynix and should push to 1600 which right now that's what it's set at. I'm running Valley 1.0 on 1024x768 windowed maxed out on my driver and program (other than res obviously) to get max fps and I'm running 1200 core and 1600 mem. So far so good, I'm only at 63c @ 82% fan speed 100% gpu load 1.234V max I've seen on this, VRNs holding steady about 51c on VRM1 and 48c on #2. Pulling about 260W max that I've seen about 860MB of the 4GB being used.





Sorry for the quality but I used my phone as not to interrupt the stress testing.
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What do y'all use for stability testing an overclock you intend to use for 24/7 use? I've asked that before but didn't really get a solid answer. I mean normally I run OCs through a benchmarking suite, and if it passes them all, I consider the benchmarking results valid, if it artifacts, I won't submit the scores to a leaderboard... but for 24/7 usage, like regular gaming type, I want to be sure it's more stable so I don't crash in the middle of a game I may be playing online or something.

Valley? Heaven? I'm thinking maybe the 3DMark FireStrike Demo on a loop? That's almost constant 100% load on both GPUs and it's quite long with minimal "scene cuts" where the cards might get the load lightened up a bit.

For game stability I max out valley 1.0 and just let it go on loop for hours (usually I'll put it on in the morning then come back after work or after doing some things and check to see if it's still working) You don't usually have to stress 100% of the memory, just a good chunk of it should do the trick. I've only got mine windowed for now so I can check on different stats, after I feel confident enough I'll put the res up and leave it while I go paint my sons room.
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Much card. Such expense. #Jelly lol

The 4 R9 290Xs I had at once didn't look anywhere near that nice lined up together (course that's cuz it was 3 different brands, 2 different aftermarket coolers & 2 Core Editions lol)
     
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Trying Trixx and getting better #'s although I'm seeing some lines in 1250, I'll see what 1240 brings, but mem up to 1650.
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Ok so, sweet spot found. Core @ 1230 and memory at 1630. Running Watchdogs maxed out windowed @ 1024x768 here's the results of that:

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Ok so, sweet spot found. Core @ 1230 and memory at 1630. Running Watchdogs maxed out windowed @ 1024x768 here's the results of that:

I wish my 290X stayed this cool. Mine gets up to 80c during heaven/valley and 75c during actual games that push a full load all the time. That's at default clocks too!
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Is it just me or do 290's in crossfire suck ?

Seam's to play better on one card .
Using 13 Driver
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14.6 was kinda ok
But only getting 76% usage on both gpu's
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