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Ok guys ,cool thanks for info,Is there a reference brand that is preferable, with any less issues ? I have always used Gigabite or Asus usually
Unfortunately I'm only know enough about the non-reference coolers, otherwise I'd give advice. I guess go with your favorite manufacturer then. AMD stopped manufacturing the reference models though, so I don't know how many manufacturers still have stock of their non reference coolers.
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I'm kind of wanting to take advantage of the 290 sale for the MSI gaming right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127774&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-127-774-_-Product

Not sure how much of a pain it would be to crossfire it with my existing Tri-X though, obviously the same memory amount, and MSI still has hynix (right?). I'm getting conflicting reports about the MSI's board though, some are saying it's not the reference PCB, others are just saying custom components (obviously), so if I were to put both under water, more specifically the HG10 bracket, I still shouldn't have any issues right?

I have a feeling we're not going to be getting much as far as black Friday sales go as AMD said something about them expecting a lower sales despite the upcoming holiday season, so I'm not sure it's going to get much better than this.

Has anyone who has RMA'ed a MSI gaming and has taken off the stickers gotten it back with no problems? From what I heard over on the MSI forums you can take them off to watercool/change thermal past etc. and it's only there to tell them whether or not to inspect for user damage and doesn't effect the RMA outcome assuming it isn't damaged.

Back when I used to stalk R9 290 reviews for different manufacturers MSI was definitely the #2 choice (before the PCS+ Vapor X came out), and most if not all the advantages the Tri-X has over the MSI looks like they'll disappear when I watercool, and do a bios flash, has anyone had experience xfiring them together to confirm?
Last time I checked, the HG10 is for referenced design card only. It also seems to use the stock fan for VRM1 cooling.

There are two version of MSI Gaming. The first version using larger caps which only compatible with EK rev 2.0 (& Alphacool NexXxos M02) waterblock. The second version, come with gold chokes is not compatible with any waterblocks as far as I know. Check out @Red1776's post.
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I'm kind of wanting to take advantage of the 290 sale for the MSI gaming right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127774&cm_re=r9_290-_-14-127-774-_-Product

Not sure how much of a pain it would be to crossfire it with my existing Tri-X though

Re - Tri X ,do you have that under water yet ? I have never seen this card under water period !
I have had debates with several PC companies and my initial letter to Sapphire was also replied with NO ! it's not reference !
to which I replied it has to be,as EK have passed it as reference and I sent Sapphire pic's with identical PCB ,and they then replied yes it is indeed reference design.

I have got the Aquacool Hawaii water block for an R9 , but have no GPU yet.
I have always intended to get a Tri - X and I know most of the advantage of one is the heat sink which will be binned but the R9 290X Tri-X OC does have more processor streams and probably better 4K performance, even though it looses it's main advantage.
Please correct me anyone that thinks I'm wasting money on a Tri-x if above is not true as it will be under water anyway, though over clocking I'm really not interested in, on either my R9 or i74790K ,but want to have the ability if I wish or need to latter.

Re - R9 sale ,Id say they will only get cheaper and cheaper for ever, from this point on,other cards are always coming out and the R9 has dropped consistently $200 - $250 in my country in just last 2 weeks ,if anything the reality is the retailers and AMD will be very keen indeed to get rid of them while they still have the chance !! at a good price ,before they just cant sell them and have to sell at there own original purchase price or less to get rid of stock, I'd be more focused on watching stock levels as they may disappear ,if you want one.

I have no idea what AMD have lined up after R9 ,iv not bothered to look, but Id say they have something on the way and the retailers know this too.
Aquacool Hawaii? Is this Alphacool or Aquacomputer waterblock?

The referenced 290X have 2816 Stream Processors & the TRI-X 290X OC also have 2816 Stream Processors. How TRI-X 2816 Stream Processors is more than referenced 2816 Stream Processors?

BTW, if I'm not mistaken, there are two version at least for TRI-X 290X. The first version is referenced design card & any waterblock should fit. I don't know about the second version of TRI-X. You might want to check this out before buying the card.
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Last time I checked, the HG10 is for referenced design card only. It also seems to use the stock fan for VRM1 cooling.

There are two version of MSI Gaming. The first version using larger caps which only compatible with EK rev 2.0 (& Alphacool NexXxos M02) waterblock. The second version, come with gold chokes is not compatible with any waterblocks as far as I know. Check out @Red1776's post.
Aquacool Hawaii? Is this Alphacool or Aquacomputer waterblock?

The referenced 290X have 2816 Stream Processors & the TRI-X 290X OC also have 2816 Stream Processors. How TRI-X 2816 Stream Processors is more than referenced 2816 Stream Processors?

BTW, if I'm not mistaken, there are two version at least for TRI-X 290X. The first version is referenced design card & any waterblock should fit. I don't know about the second version of TRI-X. You might want to check this out before buying the card.

Yes excuse me, I was thinking as typing "what is that block ?....it is the Aquacomputer Hawaii copper + plexi.

There are 3 versions of Tri -X the : R9 290 Tri-X , R9 290 Tri-X OC and the one with more processor streams the R9 290X Tri-X OC

I know near nothing about any R9 except original research on GPU's a while ago and I liked the price / performance ratio and very good performance at 4K with the R9 290X Tri-X OC ,as it was the best by test at the time, but irrelevant to me now I guess as I am water cooling it.
are there other cheaper reference PCB cards that also have more processor streams,above mentioned is only one I noticed
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Last time I checked, the HG10 is for referenced design card only. It also seems to use the stock fan for VRM1 cooling.

There are two version of MSI Gaming. The first version using larger caps which only compatible with EK rev 2.0 (& Alphacool NexXxos M02) waterblock. The second version, come with gold chokes is not compatible with any waterblocks as far as I know. Check out @Red1776's post.
Ahhh.. that's why people cared about the golden caps, it's all coming together now. Thanks so much for that, I'll definitely hold out on the MSI purchase then. Corsair is selling a replacement blower for those with a reference card but not a reference cooler (and don't have the blower fan), so it should be compatible with my current R9 290 Tri X OC, as it was early februrary when I got it, which should have been before the revision. I'll have to figure out what has a reference design, though I can always just get a reference card, but then I'd be concerned about getting hynix or not >_<.. Way too complicated. Hopefully you can still buy the original Tri-X.
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Ahhh.. that's why people cared about the golden caps, it's all coming together now. Thanks so much for that, I'll definitely hold out on the MSI purchase then. Corsair is selling a replacement blower for those with a reference card but not a reference cooler (and don't have the blower fan), so it should be compatible with my current R9 290 Tri X OC, as it was early februrary when I got it, which should have been before the revision. I'll have to figure out what has a reference design, though I can always just get a reference card, but then I'd be concerned about getting hynix or not >_<.. Way too complicated. Hopefully you can still buy the original Tri-X.

Hynix ? different revisions of Tri-X ? is there somthing I should not be buying for my Hawaii waterblock and Hynix bad ?

What in short is a good reference design card that I can use with my water block and have the least issues with ,anyone ,thanks in advance guys any help appreciated

I'm starting to surf net n look at other cards besides Tri-X, if I'm definitely wasting money if going under water.

Some quick reply's from dudes who know ,can save me many hours research on which is reference and non Hynix or whatever.
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I just looked at Pricespy.co.nz , a must use site here in New Zealand to find the cheapest anything in NZ ,and the R9 290 Tri-X OC is only $1.63 more anyway and I know that card,
You got to shop around ,some shops still selling them for $1000 + instead of $ 500 ,lol twice the price ,ill pay $519 though from a company I deal with that is closer and good rep.

Still does anyone know of a list of Reference R9 290"s ?
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I have got the Aquacool Hawaii water block for an R9 , but have no GPU yet.
I have always intended to get a Tri - X and I know most of the advantage of one is the heat sink which will be binned but the R9 290X Tri-X OC does have more processor streams and probably better 4K performance, even though it looses it's main advantage.
Please correct me anyone that thinks I'm wasting money on a Tri-x if above is not true as it will be under water anyway, though over clocking I'm really not interested in, on either my R9 or i74790K ,but want to have the ability if I wish or need to latter.

Re - R9 sale ,Id say they will only get cheaper and cheaper for ever, from this point on,other cards are always coming out and the R9 has dropped consistently $200 - $250 in my country in just last 2 weeks ,if anything the reality is the retailers and AMD will be very keen indeed to get rid of them while they still have the chance !! at a good price ,before they just cant sell them and have to sell at there own original purchase price or less to get rid of stock, I'd be more focused on watching stock levels as they may disappear ,if you want one.

I have no idea what AMD have lined up after R9 ,iv not bothered to look, but Id say they have something on the way and the retailers know this too.

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You are wasting your money on the tri-x especially if you already have a block. It's a reference pcb with non reference cooler... Just get a reference design card. They go for around $200 - $250 now. There is no difference if you got the tri-x vs reference card if you're water cooling.

i agree with bond, just get a reference 290 or 290X if you have a waterblock. core is king when it comes to oc'ing. you have a better chance of winning the silicon with a reference.
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i agree with bond, just get a reference 290 or 290X if you have a waterblock. core is king when it comes to oc'ing. you have a better chance of winning the silicon with a reference.
Excuse my lack of education ,usually I have researched more thoroughly before asking qestions.

I'm a little confused,as I now see that the 290 Tri-x OC is infact the cheapest card I can get in NZ now ,and it is a reference design anyway.

And I don't know the difference between 290 and 290X is the 290X one with more processor streams ?what is the advantage and why is it more expensive ?
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Excuse my lack of education ,usually I have researched more thoroughly before asking qestions.

I'm a little confused,as I now see that the 290 Tri-x OC is infact the cheapest card I can get in NZ now ,and it is a reference design anyway.

And I don't know the difference between 290 and 290X is the 290X one with more processor streams ?what is the advantage and why is it more expensive ?

the 290X is top of the line in Hawaii cards. it is about 7 - 10% faster than the 290. the difference may come to play in higher rez or if you are into benching. And if you are into benching, you might want to go with a USED reference card. It is kinda late to buy these things new. got my second 290 used for $247 with a full waterblock. check the used market but make sure you screen the seller and verify return policy. i recommend cards like xfx, msi or gigabyte for used. their warranty is transferrable.

now, if you are not comfortable with used, then get the tri-x.
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the 290X is top of the line in Hawaii cards. it is about 7 - 10% faster than the 290. the difference may come to play in higher rez or if you are into benching. And if you are into benching, you might want to go with a USED reference card. It is kinda late to buy these things new. got my second 290 used for $247 with a full waterblock. check the used market but make sure you screen the seller and verify return policy. i recommend cards like msi or gigabyte for used. their warranty is transferrable.

Yes thanks for feed back , yes R9 290X Tri-X OC is better in 4K that is for sure, toms hardware review clarifies this,it is equal to GTX 780Ti on some high res tests ,exactly same fps.
And yeah I do want high res performance ,thats why I started to look at the R9 in the first place.(although this wont matter again under water)
Just been reading about why the 290X is faster and what it is.

I think it is the 290X I want, though maybe splitting hairs 4-5 fps is all you gain
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