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And what are the benefits of pagefile? I always have it low or disabled
it can prevent crashing and hiccups when ram is getting low (usable ram)...and some people run with it off however some programs don't t react well to not having a pagefile at all...pagefile isn't as useful as it used to be when ram was lower speed and capacity...old rule of thumb used to be pagefile should be double the ram...now most times you can get away with a small pagefile...I still do the old way out of habit...some games and programs like to fill up the pagefile for some reason...shadow of mordor can be bad about this and all of the battlefield games...I think mega said his shadow of mordor pagefile usage was similar to mine around 30gb...but I've played since with my pagefile set to 16gb with no noticeable difference even though it's only using half that so I'm unsure why some programs love filling it up
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I have not play BF4 for a while now. Anything interesting?

The new map reminds me of BF Vietnam.
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Continuing the page file discussion ... many SSD optimization guides suggest disbaling the page file. This is because it can make a lot of writes to the flash, causing accelerated wear on the drive.

On the other hand, page file is being used as extra RAM so high performance is desirable. Some suggest putting the page file on spinning disc to avoid that wear on the flash but I do use my SSDs.

The page file can be used for docking idle programs' in memory data out of the RAM to make room for active apps' hot data, or when free physical RAM is being exhausted.

Playing GTAV for example 4 of my 8GBs are still free but it uses 6-8GB of page file on my system, pretty much as soon as it starts. Supposedly this is a carryover behavior from consoles where they are often and assume they will be exhausted of RAM and default to using the page file. Undesirable on PC if you have enough RAM: data in RAM is directly available for operations on the CPU rather than it having to be shuffled in first off the page file on disc.

FWIW in BF4 I've started to need a page file. I used to run without one (and 8GB RAM - to be gentle on the AMD IMC) but on my new install the game says I need a video card with at least 512MB vRAM (each has 4GB). I had to turn the page file up to 10GB for it to run - it immediately fills 8.5GB on launch

Now at work we have systems with 1.5TB RAM and 3TB pagefile biggrin.gif
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I have an empty Samsung 250gb EVO SSD in my system.

Would I see any performance issues taking the page file off of the main SSD (Samsung 500gb EVO) and using the empty SSD for the page file?
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I have an empty Samsung 250gb EVO SSD in my system.

Would I see any performance issues taking the page file off of the main SSD (Samsung 500gb EVO) and using the empty SSD for the page file?
I wouldn't think so but I doubt you would see any gains either...I would leave the page file and transfer whatever programs or games to the empty drive...
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Well, you have CPUs that are actually heaven and earth.

4.8 4790K is a monster in Single core perf.
4.6 AMD FX is Mediocre.

Things will really become apparent that way. Even your 5930K single core perf. is "no mas" for that 4790K in fact.
Some how my 5930k boosted my frames again even though the core count is high and the single core not great like the 8320.
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I have not play BF4 for a while now. Anything interesting?
You can now get the phantom bow really easily on the new community map
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Continuing the page file discussion ... many SSD optimization guides suggest disbaling the page file. This is because it can make a lot of writes to the flash, causing accelerated wear on the drive.

On the other hand, page file is being used as extra RAM so high performance is desirable. Some suggest putting the page file on spinning disc to avoid that wear on the flash but I do use my SSDs.

The page file can be used for docking idle programs' in memory data out of the RAM to make room for active apps' hot data, or when free physical RAM is being exhausted.

Playing GTAV for example 4 of my 8GBs are still free but it uses 6-8GB of page file on my system, pretty much as soon as it starts. Supposedly this is a carryover behavior from consoles where they are often and assume they will be exhausted of RAM and default to using the page file. Undesirable on PC if you have enough RAM: data in RAM is directly available for operations on the CPU rather than it having to be shuffled in first off the page file on disc.

FWIW in BF4 I've started to need a page file. I used to run without one (and 8GB RAM - to be gentle on the AMD IMC) but on my new install the game says I need a video card with at least 512MB vRAM (each has 4GB). I had to turn the page file up to 10GB for it to run - it immediately fills 8.5GB on launch

Now at work we have systems with 1.5TB RAM and 3TB pagefile biggrin.gif
This is not really relevant anymore like when ssds were first introduced. ( talking about page files on ssds )
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This is not really relevant anymore like when ssds were first introduced. ( talking about page files on ssds )

Agree to disagree? If anything average write endurance has decreased, with many consumers moving to TLC and most of the enterprise flash on MLC these days. Some controllers are better than others at trying to distribute writes to fresher cells but trust me the flash guys are still very conscious of and continuing to engineer around this issue. Your workload or use case may vary but the topic is still an interest to professionals.
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Guys, I need help deciding....I'm coming from a 21.5" 16:9 monitor and can't decide on a 29'' or 34'' 21:9 monitor.... can anyone help me make a decision? My brain is locking up on this one!
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Whats the budget here? Bigger is always better so........
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