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Okay here is what I did let me know if it does look good.



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Guys, you're setting ITAngel up for a disappointment. One has to have a lot of fans blowing heat out when having a dual Hawaii setup with an open-air cooler (or two). One exhaust fan won't cut it, no matter how many intake fans you have. Sure, it would be a better balance to have like 3 in - 3 out, but personally I wouldn't even bother trying that setup with top fans as intakes. The amount of hot air circulating in that case will be massive.

ITAngel, I would try adding an extra intake at the bottom and keeping the top part of the case for exhaust. There is a bottom 140mm spot in the Enthoo Prime, right? 200mm+140mm as intake could already be enough to keep those exhaust fans occupied. Even if the intakes are a bit restricted, it doesn't matter for the pressure, the cold air just won't go to the GPU as effectively.
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Guys, you're setting ITAngel up for a disappointment. One has to have a lot of fans blowing heat out when having a dual Hawaii setup with an open-air cooler (or two). One exhaust fan won't cut it, no matter how many intake fans you have. Sure, it would be a better balance to have like 3 in - 3 out, but personally I wouldn't even bother trying that setup with top fans as intakes. The amount of hot air circulating in that case will be massive.

ITAngel, I would try adding an extra intake at the bottom and keeping the top part of the case for exhaust. There is a bottom 140mm spot in the Enthoo Prime, right? 200mm+140mm as intake could already be enough to keep those exhaust fans occupied. Even if the intakes are a bit restricted, it doesn't matter for the pressure, the cold air just won't go to the GPU as effectively.

I there thanks for the tip, I been running a game testing it. The fans were getting pretty load after a while I decide to remove the side panel. As soon I did that the fans on the GPU drop and temps started dropping from 89C to 82C, so this case is lacking a lot of cool air. My room is only 72F.

I was thinking of grabbing a Thermaltake Core X9 Black E-ATX for better air flow but not sure, maybe is a mater of arranging my fans and adding powerful quite fans to push more air into this case. Not sure. rolleyes.gif
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I wanted to share some info I just recently got the PowerColor Devil's 13 290X2 and is not a bad card at all. Is not as loud as many make them to be and during stress test yes they do get a bit louder. I think that only two places I heard the card run a bit louder was in Battlefield 4 and Heaven Bench test. My test were done in my office ambiet temps were 72C. My room stay within 68C-72C.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The Devil 13 is in the case.

-Closed Case-



-Open Case-



Temps didnt get pass 86C in Battlefield 4 thumb.gif
Temps in heaven got to 93C in the first test run stock mode.




So far sound was quiet during normal gaming in GW2 and Rift and normal desktop activities but during battlefield 4 and heaven bench mark it was a bit louder. Temps went up to 94C during the first test. Temps stay within 48C after that when the card was not stress tested.

Not a bad card for $400 only a month old.
Whoa! I'd most likely get heat stroke if I live in 72C ambient room. Survival rate also not very good.

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I disagree the saying that negative pressure is bad. Not at all. The only negative about negative pressure is dust. With heat dumping cards like Hawaii, especially two or more of them, you want active exhaust airflow which you can get by negative pressure. With positive pressure, if there is air turbulence, it can prevent the heat from escaping the case properly & trap the heat instead. I didn't say positive pressure is bad but make sure you positioned the intake & exhaust fans properly if you want positive pressure. Negative pressure is much easier.
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Whoa! I'd most likely get heat stroke if I live in 72C ambient room. Survival rate also not very good.

biggrin.gif

I disagree the saying that negative pressure is bad. Not at all. The only negative about negative pressure is dust. With heat dumping cards like Hawaii, especially two or more of them, you want active exhaust airflow which you can get by negative pressure. With positive pressure, if there is air turbulence, it can prevent the heat from escaping the case properly & trap the heat instead. I didn't say positive pressure is bad but make sure you positioned the intake & exhaust fans properly if you want positive pressure. Negative pressure is much easier.

Well I am trying to find the best way I can make it so that it will cool everything in quicker since the noise of the fans come in due to the heat trap in the case. I did notice as soon I removed the side panel the graphic card noise started going down. In just about a minute or two the temps drop from 89C to 82C and the noise level also did drop. So I have to figure out a best way to get everything working here with the current fans I have. I can't afford to add more at the moment as I have lots of drives, an OC cpu, this graphic card etc... and only running a 1000w EVGA SuperNova G2 power supply.

I have not placed fans on the button of the case because it looks like I need some low profile fans to move under the case. so I only have the top, and front and rear. If I want to use the bottom to add intake fans, I will have to remove the PSU cove so I can place one to blow directly to the GPU.

What you guys think?

If I did that, I would put a 120mm down, have my 200mm on front, 120mm on top and the 140mm on the back.
Edited by ITAngel - 1/23/16 at 11:27pm
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1 fan pushing in and 3 taking out is negative pressure lol. Also remember the GPUs fan is exhaust so you have 4 fans out 1 in. That is extreme negative pressure its all bad. Always have more fans going in than out. You want positive or neutral pressure negative is all bad.

Your CPU temps should drop too by flipping those fans.

As bad as an advise I have ever seen.

1. Only reference cards exhaust hot air. Custom cooled cards spray hot air all inside the case.

2. Negative or Positive pressure, the difference is DUST. Not cooling.
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Quote:
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Whoa! I'd most likely get heat stroke if I live in 72C ambient room. Survival rate also not very good.

biggrin.gif

I disagree the saying that negative pressure is bad. Not at all. The only negative about negative pressure is dust. With heat dumping cards like Hawaii, especially two or more of them, you want active exhaust airflow which you can get by negative pressure. With positive pressure, if there is air turbulence, it can prevent the heat from escaping the case properly & trap the heat instead. I didn't say positive pressure is bad but make sure you positioned the intake & exhaust fans properly if you want positive pressure. Negative pressure is much easier.

Well I am trying to find the best way I can make it so that it will cool everything in quicker since the noise of the fans come in due to the heat trap in the case. I did notice as soon I removed the side panel the graphic card noise started going down. In just about a minute or two the temps drop from 89C to 82C and the noise level also did drop. So I have to figure out a best way to get everything working here with the current fans I have. I can't afford to add more at the moment as I have lots of drives, an OC cpu, this graphic card etc... and only running a 1000w EVGA SuperNova G2 power supply.

I have not placed fans on the button of the case because it looks like I need some low profile fans to move under the case. so I only have the top, and front and rear. If I want to use the bottom to add intake fans, I will have to remove the PSU cove so I can place one to blow directly to the GPU.

What you guys think?

If I did that, I would put a 120mm down, have my 200mm on front, 120mm on top and the 140mm on the back.
Open case temps will always lower than closed case. I think you can lower the temps with higher CFM fans but there will be issue with noise. I would keep both top & rear fans working as exhaust. Also keep front as intake although I would replace the 200mm with a pair of good 120mm fans. Did you use custom fan profile on the Devil?
Edited by kizwan - 1/24/16 at 1:46am
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I was going to suggest @ITAngel the same setup I have running in my 750D but it seems like there isn't enough space on the unused PCI slot covers to strap another 120mm fan from the inside.
Nonetheless, here it is, fans are all 1850rpm Gentle Typhoons which work the best in my senario
Top: 2 as intake nearer the front since the slot nearest the back as intake actually increases my CPU temps.
Front: 2 as intake
Bottom: 2 as intake, fiddling with temps suggests that it doesn't really do much. Maybe 1 degree difference in card temps
Top Back: 1 as exhaust
Bottom Back (Unused PCIE slots): Cable-tied a fan to the inside. This one made a huge difference to temps, a 5C drop. Since the case doesn't have a side panel fan to extract all the hot air thrown out by the card, this was the only other way.

Of course I did other mods to the card, CLU on die and Fujipoly Ultra Extreme on the VRMs.
Hope this helps. If not, you could probably ghetto rig a 120mm CLC to each die to bring down temps as well though it won't look as elegant
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I there thanks for the tip, I been running a game testing it. The fans were getting pretty load after a while I decide to remove the side panel. As soon I did that the fans on the GPU drop and temps started dropping from 89C to 82C, so this case is lacking a lot of cool air. My room is only 72F.

I was thinking of grabbing a Thermaltake Core X9 Black E-ATX for better air flow but not sure, maybe is a mater of arranging my fans and adding powerful quite fans to push more air into this case. Not sure. rolleyes.gif

Interestingly, I have both of these cases. The Phanteks and the X9. The X9 has vastly more availability for airflow. That being said you should be able to do fine with the one you have too. You just need to add more 120mm high pressure fans. 8-10 of them would do it nicely.
     
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