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i am using HDMI
You could try with DVI, but this is just empirical. Practically you have 2 ways, increasing the 0.95v rail with a mod (and i think it's some hard mod) or step back in voltage just a bit.

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My Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X current BIOS version is 015.043.000.001.000000, is that the latest version? If not then is there any advantages of flashing the latest version?
Nope, you could potentially brick your card if you mess up with the bios, wrong version, wrong memory support, wrong voltage and so on. Don't need to mess with the bios unless you want to push the card with some heavy voltage
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Nope, you could potentially brick your card if you mess up with the bios, wrong version, wrong memory support, wrong voltage and so on. Don't need to mess with the bios unless you want to push the card with some heavy voltage
I don't plan to overclock the card as it is handling the games I play fine with good frames. Also, which way should I have the BIOS switch towards, UEFI or Classic? Is there any differences between them?
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i tryed dvi but it didnt solve a problem, still lost signal after couple of minutes. I have also tryed to flash bios from shammy but both ends up with black screen. is it even posible to flash msi r9 290x gsming 4gb(hynix)?
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I also oced my memory without adding volts to 1600mhz, it was perfectly fine but than i tryed 1625 and screen goes black and i couldnt bot up my pc. Luckily i solve it by changing pci slots
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Made this run with the modded 390x BIOS on my reference ASUS 290x card. Unfortunately this was a black screen run. I am sad to see that my card is black screening at what I think is low voltages for 1100MHz stable. Only saw a max temp of 45°C on the core so I will continue to increase voltage and see what I can get.



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Originally Posted by joseph172g View Post

i tryed dvi but it didnt solve a problem, still lost signal after couple of minutes. I have also tryed to flash bios from shammy but both ends up with black screen. is it even posible to flash msi r9 290x gsming 4gb(hynix)?
Use memoryinfo to check your memory. I don't advise you to flash some fancy bios unless you know what you're doing. You could potentially kill some VRAM chip (different speed, timings and voltages).
The easiest way is to reduce your vcore, otherwise the hardmod is the only solution. 0.95v rail has nothing to do with VRAM, it's a separate rail that feeds the video output. When you increae voltage you give stability to vcore but the other rail do not take it very well. That's why after some overvolt, you can come across some issue like you.
My old 280x holds 1.3v without any problem at all, but Hawaii is different. I can't recreate the same scenario myseld because i'm waiting for some backplate because right now, even if watercooled, my VRMs are quite hot and i don't want to push over 1.23v even if core temp is fine
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I also oced my memory without adding volts to 1600mhz, it was perfectly fine but than i tryed 1625 and screen goes black and i couldnt bot up my pc. Luckily i solve it by changing pci slots
Have you check the supported VRAM within the bios? As i told you, sometimes even minor changes can cause issue. Sometimes even damage like the 7970 that i've got for free ([rul]http://www.overclock.net/t/1602714/help-me-fix-my-7970-update-the-soldering-is-real[/url this was a bad flash turned into 3gb fried to 260ish mb biggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by Casterina View Post

I don't plan to overclock the card as it is handling the games I play fine with good frames. Also, which way should I have the BIOS switch towards, UEFI or Classic? Is there any differences between them?
Unless you have some problem with the UEFI one, stick on that. Legacy is for older system that, as the word says, do not support the new UEFI. Moreover, one is flashabe, the other isn't if i'm right. That's a safety measure in case of a bad flash. But, since i've ran across some trouble in the past with bios (motherboard) i highly suggest you not to play with that unless it's mandatory
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There's no risk of killing the card with a BIOS flash, these cards are designed for it. However before flashing either of them, back them both up and make notes of what one was in each position, so if the flash fails in some way it's easy to re-flash the original. You can flip the BIOS switch at any point in time after windows has booted and this is the simplest way to re-flash a bad BIOS, simply boot it up using the good BIOS and flip it over to the bad BIOS after windows has booted to re-flash.

The only cases a BIOS can kill a card is if it has a serious voltage override that disables the safety shutoffs, of which is still a relatively low risk provided you monitor all the temperatures.

I'm not aware of any flashing limits either as I've re-flashed my 290X and old 7970 something like 50 times each without issue, occasionally however winflash can bug out, but that rarely corrupts the active BIOS and a re-boot and retry usually works fine.
   
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There's no risk of killing the card with a BIOS flash, these cards are designed for it. However before flashing either of them, back them both up and make notes of what one was in each position, so if the flash fails in some way it's easy to re-flash the original. You can flip the BIOS switch at any point in time after windows has booted and this is the simplest way to re-flash a bad BIOS, simply boot it up using the good BIOS and flip it over to the bad BIOS after windows has booted to re-flash.

The only cases a BIOS can kill a card is if it has a serious voltage override that disables the safety shutoffs, of which is still a relatively low risk provided you monitor all the temperatures.

I'm not aware of any flashing limits either as I've re-flashed my 290X and old 7970 something like 50 times each without issue, occasionally however winflash can bug out, but that rarely corrupts the active BIOS and a re-boot and retry usually works fine.
I don't know what happened to my 7970 but the guy who had it before me flashed a wrong bios on it. I checked the memory and they were different. Now that card is fine, but crashes with drivers and ony recognize 260ish mb of vram. I think because of different voltage on memory chips. I've flashed several other bios, still the same issue, so i'm about to solder new vram chips on it.

Maybe it's just me, but i'm not a fan of bios flash, but it's me, i'm pretty unlucky. My first z97 motherboard died after a bios flash. Turned out to be a bad bios chip. Still, i do that only if it's mandatory biggrin.gif
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I am adding screenshot from memory info. Do i have to mod my own bios? Or is there any other which will work?
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I am adding screenshot from memory info. Do i have to mod my own bios? Or is there any other which will work?
There is no reason to change the bios. You could try to make that card a 300 series one with some minor improvement but there is really no practical benefit in some bios change just for the sake of it. Usually when people change the bios is because they want to override some safety features like adding more room for voltage or making some default settings in clock speed. For example, if your card can run 1100/1500 you could set those as default setting so when you boot you don't have to overclock the card every time. This tho, can be done either applying the overclock at startup like trixx or afterburner allow with just one click. I can't see any reason to replace that bios with another one. But just in case, check the compatibility. Vram, voltage controller and pcb in general are the things to consider.
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