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I don't know what happened to my 7970 but the guy who had it before me flashed a wrong bios on it. I checked the memory and they were different. Now that card is fine, but crashes with drivers and ony recognize 260ish mb of vram. I think because of different voltage on memory chips. I've flashed several other bios, still the same issue, so i'm about to solder new vram chips on it.

Maybe it's just me, but i'm not a fan of bios flash, but it's me, i'm pretty unlucky. My first z97 motherboard died after a bios flash. Turned out to be a bad bios chip. Still, i do that only if it's mandatory biggrin.gif

There's a lot of factors that could attribute to the VRAM issue on that 7970, but dead IC's would be the most likely. The key would be whether the PCB accepts the new IC's happily or just remains dead, of which would most likely be a VRM failure that prevents the core and/or IC's from going in to full power.

Most of the time dead cards and whatnot are just scrapped for parts and only a fraction of the components will survive the process, the rest and the PCB are shredded and melted down into raw materials for new components.
   
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There's a lot of factors that could attribute to the VRAM issue on that 7970, but dead IC's would be the most likely. The key would be whether the PCB accepts the new IC's happily or just remains dead, of which would most likely be a VRM failure that prevents the core and/or IC's from going in to full power.

Most of the time dead cards and whatnot are just scrapped for parts and only a fraction of the components will survive the process, the rest and the PCB are shredded and melted down into raw materials for new components.
Those VRAM modules cost me 25€ so i can give them a try, even because i got the card for free and i like to do some experiment on that.
VRMs seems got tho, no sign of burnt things or strange smell.
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This is a public service announcement to any Crossfire users who either have or are thinking of getting a steam controller or use or are considering using Steam Big Picture Mode.

The problem is that the alternative overlay which is activated when using a Steam Controller or Big Picture Mode causes crossfire to cease working. This is likely because Crossfire only works in exclusive fullscreen or true fullscreen mode. Crossfire does not work in a borderless fullscreen mode. I believe that Big Picture Mode operates with the games running in borderless windowed mode even when you have your game set to fullscreen. That is just hunch, but what I can say for sure is that crossfire does not work with BPM or its alternate overlay.

When ever you launch a game that utilizes crossfire, if you monitor it with MSIAB you can see the 2nd card being utilized right up until the first steam overlay message appears onscreen about "accessing the steam community" at which point the 2nd cards utilization will drop to 0, and its clock speeds will drop down to its idle state speeds.

The answer then is to not use Big Picture Mode. However, if you are using a steam controller, even if you launch a game from the steam desktop program (not BPM), it will still utilize Steam's BPM overlay. You can disable the overlay all together by right clicking your game and selecting Properties>General> and unticking "Enable the Steam Overlay while in-game", however without the overlay active the steam controller will not use the configuration you assigned to it for that game. Instead it will just continue to use your desktop controller configuration, which is less than ideal.

The real solution is to click in the upper left corner on Steam>Settings>In Game and untick "Use the Big Picture Overlay when using a Steam Controller from the desktop". With this option disabled you can launch a game from the Steam desktop program and as long as you have the regular steam overlay enabled (which doesn't interfere with crossfire) the game will use the controller configuration you have choosen for it. The only minor issue with this method is that you can't press the Steam button on the controller to bring up controller configuration menu. To make changes to the controller configuration you need to alt-tab to the desktop, right click your game and select "Edit Steam Controller Configuration".

This will just allow you to play games with your Steam Controller and enjoy crossfire, by avoiding BPM and its alternate overlay. There is no fix that I know of for crossfire that will allow you to use BPM. So this fix applies strictly to Steam Controller users only.

Hopefully they will fix Big Picture Mode in the future so that this workaround isn't required, but it kind of seems like the whole big picture mode is built around borderless window mode so who knows if its even possible to fix. It was hard finding any information on the subject, but from what I have read this issue seems to affect Nvidia SLI users as well.
Edited by LandonAaron - 7/7/16 at 1:22pm
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post #43074 of 43996
I'm pretty sure someone in this thread would know which one of these products is the better one

Accelero Xtreme IV
Raijintek Morpheus


Think i decided to hold on to my 290 a little longer till next gen, the cooler that my card (Powercolor Turboduo, not the PCS one) came with can barely hold 1000Mhz under 90°C and that is @95% fan speed

also considering this one but i have my doubts that it'll contain my 290 @1150-1175 speed
Edited by serave - 7/10/16 at 5:51pm
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Single Card Setup- Accelero Xtreme IV - wasn't to hard to install, quite quite quite even on 12V.

Crossfire Setup -keep you factory coolers & use a head set, or go under water.
couple of factors - not enough room if you have a bottom mount Power suppler, top card also get starved for air, in my case

Note: I have a really cramped case, with a poor air flow reviews; bought it with out researching. I had to also take advantage of costume BIOs to keep the temps down, mind you i also run un-OC'd.
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Oh another thing, do you think they would be willing to send back the 290x if i pay shipping to have that ship back also? or don't you think they would do that sense they already sending a replacement also?



edit just got back off the phone again asking if i can received the old card back also. and they first said didint you already accepted the 390 gaming 8gb? i told them yes but i was seeing if i can get the 290x back also so i can hang it on my wall which i would've tried baking it lol and he put me on hold and got back to me and said the cards get sent to the mfg i guess amd? cards that cant be repaired so it would be a no..

guess it was worth a try and really i cant do much now cause they did say i already accepted the 390. i guess its better getting that card than 141$ or even no card lol..


It's a bit of a necro, but did receive the card already?

I have a 390 now and I can honestly say, you will love it. Pair it with the new driver and you'll never miss the 290X.

Except if your lightning can do over 1300Mhz which I doubt without watercooling.

1200MHz 390 can hang with a 1300MHz 290. On same drivers. Once you go with the latest Crimson, well.....

http://www.overclock.net/t/1561704/official-amd-r9-390-390x-owners-club/9900_50#post_25339680
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Single Card Setup- Accelero Xtreme IV - wasn't to hard to install, quite quite quite even on 12V.

Crossfire Setup -keep you factory coolers & use a head set, or go under water.
couple of factors - not enough room if you have a bottom mount Power suppler, top card also get starved for air, in my case

Note: I have a really cramped case, with a poor air flow reviews; bought it with out researching. I had to also take advantage of costume BIOs to keep the temps down, mind you i also run un-OC'd.

I decided i'd go with the Kraken G10+AIO setup, the price difference between the Xtreme IV is only $15 biggrin.gif
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It's a bit of a necro, but did receive the card already?

I have a 390 now and I can honestly say, you will love it. Pair it with the new driver and you'll never miss the 290X.

Except if your lightning can do over 1300Mhz which I doubt without watercooling.

1200MHz 390 can hang with a 1300MHz 290. On same drivers. Once you go with the latest Crimson, well.....

http://www.overclock.net/t/1561704/official-amd-r9-390-390x-owners-club/9900_50#post_25339680

Well, that's nice i wonder how they managed to do that with the same GPU chip though
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different power limit or different bioses (so memory timings are different)
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Can someone help me out? http://www.overclock.net/t/1604873/bought-a-290x-with-a-broken-resistor-for-my-friend-thoughts/
Could someone here with am multimeter measure the resistor C21719? It's on the back of the GPU, opposite side from the PCI-e Area, on the edge of the card. I would greatly appreciate it.
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It's a bit of a necro, but did receive the card already?

I have a 390 now and I can honestly say, you will love it. Pair it with the new driver and you'll never miss the 290X.

Except if your lightning can do over 1300Mhz which I doubt without watercooling.

1200MHz 390 can hang with a 1300MHz 290. On same drivers. Once you go with the latest Crimson, well.....

http://www.overclock.net/t/1561704/official-amd-r9-390-390x-owners-club/9900_50#post_25339680

Well, that's nice i wonder how they managed to do that with the same GPU chip though
By fine tuning in the VBIOS. Like race cars, you can fine tune GPU to get more performance. Just imagine the VRM controller, memory controller, etc as little computer.

With stock VBIOS, 390 is faster than 290 & 390X is faster than 290X. I believe 390 & 290X are neck and neck. 290 can keep up with 390 with 390 modded ROM but 390 with modded ROM will pull ahead.
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