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post #11 of 20
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hey ppl,I managed to run RemoteFX!! I installed win7 on the client pc and connected it to the VM.
It works!! I guess its not true what you said about only server 2012 being able to run it...
What I did:
Installed Windows 7 SP1 and downloaded RDP 8.0 update on both the VM and the client PC.
Enabled Intel VT-x in VMware on the host
Enabled RemoteFX via group policy settings
and voila! very smooth operation ,even games work fine! BUT i have i very nasty problem...mouse seems super accelerated when i open a game,it works fine in windows,but in the game "Aion" its super sensitive,i read online about other ppl having same problem,but found no solution,any ideas? :/
post #12 of 20
I'm a little lost here.

If you are using RemoteFX, the host Windows OS will only allow you to pass the video card to the guest OS if it's Windows 2008R2 or Server 2012 , 2012 (R2). As a matter of fact, I believe the the GPU passthrough option isn't even available if it's any other Windows OS.

Sounds like you are not using Hyper-V but some version of VMWare to create a virtual machine and then RDP to it.

It's great that you got a working solution, but if you can elaborate with a bit more details. I'm certainly interested.
post #13 of 20
I'm really interested in this too. I've also got a recent thread on the subject.

My dream scenario is ultimately to run an 8 core Haswell-E i7 5930k overclocked with multiple GPU's.

Have 2 cores, some ram and my drive pool permanently allocated to a VM with WHS2011 ,Flexraid and CCTV NVR.

Have a another VM that utilises remaining 6 cores, ram and all GPUs in SLI that is used locally on the machine to play games on the projector in that room or oculus rift. Also be able to use this VM as a rendering machine as I want to get into 3D visualisation/modelling in my spare time.

Then 2 more Win7 VMs that could use 3 cores each, ram and a GPU each and be accessed from lower powered client pc's around the house. (Atom D525/AMD 5340M XBMC clients)

Obviously not all concurrently.

I wonder will the SteamOS game streaming functionality bring anything to the table. Does it replace the need for RemoteFX or its equivalents, require them or even be prevented from working by them.

Exciting times!

That said, I do have a backup plan if all this isn't possible yet. Should cost around the same. ie. co-locate a second mobo and CPU in the case. With an i5 Low TDP CPU, 8gigs ram for the Server part of the plan. And i7 Haswell k series CPU and z87 mobo , 16 gigs ram and the GPUs. RDP in for the rendering, game locally and game stream to 1 client elsewhere in the house at a time with SteamOS. That. At least is definitely possible as it's an official part of the SteamOS feature set.
Edited by Calibos - 10/27/13 at 2:44am
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post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
Sure,what motivated me is this http://blogs.msdn.com/b/rds/archive/2012/11/26/remotefx-features-for-windows-8-and-windows-server-2012.aspx
then I found this http://blog.tedd.no/2011/04/28/optimizing-rdp-for-casual-use-windows-7-sp1-remotefx/
and when I got my hands on VMware Workstation 10,did everything in an hour or two,its easy:)

btw,Windows editions ultimate and enterprise are identical so I used Windows 7SP1 Ultimate in both my host and client and it worked smile.gif

I hope this info helps you guys to do it! I will keep this updated,as im testing some tweaks now biggrin.gif
Edited by parrot1553 - 10/27/13 at 2:44am
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by parrot1553 View Post

hey ppl,I managed to run RemoteFX!! I installed win7 on the client pc and connected it to the VM.
It works!! I guess its not true what you said about only server 2012 being able to run it...
What I did:
Installed Windows 7 SP1 and downloaded RDP 8.0 update on both the VM and the client PC.
Enabled Intel VT-x in VMware on the host
Enabled RemoteFX via group policy settings
and voila! very smooth operation ,even games work fine! BUT i have i very nasty problem...mouse seems super accelerated when i open a game,it works fine in windows,but in the game "Aion" its super sensitive,i read online about other ppl having same problem,but found no solution,any ideas? :/

Umm, sorry but you are not using RemoteFX. If the Client PC is running Windows 7 and it's connecting to a VM running under VMware, there is no way you are running RemoteFX. The remove VM would have to be running under Hyper-V on server 2008R2/2012/2012R2.

You said you enabled VT-x in VMware, which VT-x is allowing a hypervisor to use the underlying hardware, so you must have set it to passthrough your GPU to vmware or something. I don't work that deeply with VMware, so I don't know the specifics, but I do know that if your VM is running on VMware, there is no possible way you are running RemoteFX.
post #16 of 20
Just discovered something called multi-seat.

Have a read of this: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/faq/id-1672694/multi-seat-gaming-howto.html

This gentlemen, is I think what I have been looking for in hindsight.

TBH it was probably never a good idea to try to run a Media server, IP CCTV NVR, Win7 Browsing/YT and multiple gaming VMs all on the one PC. Putting aside GPU passthrough issues. Its a lot for even a future Haswell-E 8 Core system and there are security issues and config and maintenence issues.

I think this multi-seat thing combined with the backup plan from my last post in this thread might be the holy grail for me.

ie. I want to co-locate 2 mobo/CPU combos in the same case. Both watercooled. One quad-core Haswell i5 with 8gigs of Ram and the 2 LSI 8x Sata controllers and the 24 HDD's running WHS2011/Flexraid/NVR Software/Future XBMC Server Edition.

Then next year add an 8 Core Haswell-E and X99 board and GPU's. This machine can be the browsing/YT machine with cheap GPU feeding the local monitor and the 2 other GPU's assigned to 2 Sandboxied Steam accounts allowing 2 people to play on SteamOS client PC's. (Not same game but a game.)

The chances of all three functions occuring at the same time is slim (People working different shifts etc). So a Browsing/YT session at the same time as a gaming session is no problem. 2 gaming sessions at the same time is no problem with 8 cores to play with etc.

Its too late to do much research on it tonight but I'll get stuck in tomorrow. Hopefully my assumptions about it are correct and there isn't a 'Gotcha' waiting for me biggrin.gif
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post #17 of 20
Hey
which is better CPU for remote desktop gaming (i will OC CPU 4.4Ghz+)
FX 8320 or i5 4670K
post #18 of 20
Will RemoteFX be antiquated by Steam In-Home Streaming?
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post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by cslayer211 View Post

Will RemoteFX be antiquated by Steam In-Home Streaming?

Antiquated? Hell no.

You got to realize that RemoteFX is NOT designed for gaming, but for business uses that are GPU intensive, such as CADD. Will Steam's In-Home Streaming perform better than RemoteFX for games? Likely, yes only because it is DESIGNED for games.
post #20 of 20
Hello parrot, could you please write your pc hardware and the game you was able to play smooth? Thanks. I am trying to do something similar without any success. My hardware specs are: intel i7-2600k, nvidia gtx580, 8gb ram and windows 8.1 enterprice installed.What I am doing is this way:

With a little hack i was able to login with two users at the same time. And created a VM windows 8.1 enterprice. Using VM I connect to the second user on pc through rdp. Everything works fine unless I try to play Arma 3 biggrin.gif coop. Game starts but mouse gets stuck at the down position. I mean i always look down, even if I try to look up player just turns around looking down. And game is running at 30 fps. But because of rdp lag(I think) it looks like running at 15 fps.
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