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WC'ing a 350D with limited space?

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Hiyo,

Please note this thread is for my sig rig below, and I'm new to the WC scene. I need to keep my HDD bay in, and both my 5.25' bays are taken up by a fan controller. My main objectives for WC'ing revolve around keeping the listed components nice and chilly, whilst still keeping in mind that money doesn't grow on trees for me. That being said, I'm happy to dish out the dough to pay for parts which are needed; I'm not being a tight-ass, but I also don't want to go overkill for the sake of overkill.

I'd like to put together a loop to cool the following:

1x 3570k or 3770k @ 1.35v
2x R9 290X gpu's @ [a moderate overclock]

Given what I want to cool, and the space available inside my case, I think I really need to head down the External Loop pathway, right? I'm fresh to custom loops, so please correct me if I'm wrong. Also, does anyone have any advice for actual parts? I read a few of the stickied guides, but I have no idea how dated those product recommendations are, and how relevant they are to external loops. Feel free to simply direct me to other forum links if it makes things easier.

Cheers!
Edited by fleetfeather - 10/26/13 at 4:09am
    
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post #2 of 6
I did the same thing and here are my findings:

First off I used a 3930k and SLi 780s with a 120mm in the back and two 120mm rads

The GPU's would get up to 64c under max load overnight. Light OC so ~260w each.
The 3930k had problems. Even at stock speeds it would get up into the 80s when the GPU's were under load. I couldn't really push it past 4.2 without it throttling in games like BF3.

I solved all this by adding a Phobya Nova 1080 outside. Then the temps got really nice.
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post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply, your experience is really helpful! thumb.gif

I might go strictly down the external WC route then. Are you aware of any setups/kits which feature a 9x120mm rad + res + pump combo? I'm also liking the idea of a external setup which I can add a quick connect/disconnect valve onto.

Thanks again
    
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post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
Update (and Bump)

Woo paint diagram!



Any suggestions for gear + routing? Please note that the GPUs are slotted into the 1st and 4th PCIe slots, and that a 2-slot cooler card sits flush against the top of my PSU.

Cheers for reading/viewing smile.gif
    
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post #5 of 6
Get a d5 pump and put it on the bottom in front of the the psu.
If you have $ get a mo-ra3 with feet.
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CSGO Steelseries Creative Aurvana Live! 2 
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Sister's rig
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Family HTPC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820k MSI X99S MPOWER GTX 980 Ti 8x4gb 3000 MHz Crucial DDR4 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 950 Pro Custom WC loop 480mm & 560mm Windows 10 ROG SWIFT 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK Greens Corsair RM1000w Custom 3d-printed case Steelseries Rival 
Mouse PadAudio
CSGO Steelseries Creative Aurvana Live! 2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Amd FX 8320 Asus sabertooth 990FX Nvidia GTX 760 4GB g.skill ares 12GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB HP thingy Phanteks TC12DX Windows 7 
PowerCaseMouse
Raidmax 530w White FD R4 Logitech G400 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A10 5800k Asrock pro-4 m His 6770 1GB G.skill 2133 8GB 
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Samsung 840 ssd 128 GB Lg blu-ray combo drive Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Windows 7 
PowerCase
Raidmax 530w Silverstone Temjin 
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post #6 of 6
Right now what I am looking at is XSPC blocks for the CPU, and both GPU's, A D5 in the bottom with a tube res, and a pair of Black Ice 240's: one up top and one up front. Since that allows me to use the fans I have already, I don't have to buy any, which helps keep costs down (If only by a little). Including two fill ports (One for filling, and one for draining), a half dozen 45's, and 14 fittings, that comes out to be just under 1k. Figure another 50 bucks for tube and coolant, and I think that will do the trick. Best thing is, since I am jumping up to a 900D in the near future, I can reuse all my parts in a logical fashion and add on a pair of 480's to help cool things with a third and perhaps fourth GPU (480 on top, 240 up front, and the 240 and other 480 down below).
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