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As a programmer I did see that. Not everyone on planet earth uses his PC as a gaming machine for BF4.
Misinformed , no. Just a realist. Please also have in mind that BF4 is optimized for AMD , so don't just give one example to compare a product. Nearly for the past three decades, Intel CPUs have been the top notch in terms of everything. eg: power consumption, temperatures, technology and performance per mhz etc etc....

As you should also know, AMD lost the game for CPUs as they are letting the FX series and developing their APUs, which is a bad move in terms of profit(they lose all the gaming and workstation potential they had). Again, as you must be a gamer, to even be named a gamer you must play at least more than one game. So if the FX 8350 is only good (only in BETA where no optimization was made for hyper threading or even any hardware) at BF4 and not any other game/upcoming games, then what is the point?

If i went by your point, Batman Games make AMD products literally half the performance of what nvidia and intel gets. That does not make AMD GPUs weak. no, just not optimized for the specific game. However, if the same thing happens to most of the games( meaning with all AMD CPUs never reach top 5) then there is a problem not with optimization but with the hardware its self.

Please don't take my comment as an elitist for intel/nvidia. I love AMD gpus, but not their cpus. that simple.

Did you live in a cave during the Athlon XP, Athlon 64, Pentium D (Prescott), that horrid P4 that was slapped on the old P3 substrate, Opteron, I could go on.
Edited by meangreenbean - 10/27/13 at 3:37pm
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Its only since 2006 intel really went ahead, not 3 decades ago.

Before that AMD had the aces.
Edited by jezzer - 10/27/13 at 3:46pm
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post #13 of 15
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AMD cpusill NEVER be better than intels , that is my opinion. not mantle nor God can help them.AMD GPUs are eat, i say .. better than nvidias. but the CPUs are way back...

Umm the AMD optimizations for BF4 are on GPU, I haven't heard anything about CPU instruction code optimizations for the frostbite engine....

The reason 8350 scores 3rd in BF4 benches is because frostbite uses up to 8 threads.

In any case faildozers and vishersas also scaled very well in BF3, which was pre "AMD optimization"

And in any case BF4 isn't getting optimized for AMD till December when they patch it for Mantle.
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Umm the AMD optimizations for BF4 are on GPU, I haven't heard anything about CPU instruction code optimizations for the frostbite engine....

The reason 8350 scores 3rd in BF4 benches is because frostbite uses up to 8 threads.

In any case faildozers and vishersas also scaled very well in BF3, which was pre "AMD optimization"

And in any case BF4 isn't getting optimized for AMD till December when they patch it for Mantle.

Yeah intel will eventually see the writing on the wall, or maybe they will decide against it and try paying the pc manufacturers not to use AMD again......these conversations are so constructive rolleyes.gif
   
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I say this all the time to people when I build them machines.... I usually hold back on this site... but to the average user, the average gamer, what your objective is, is to get 60fps @ 1080p at max or close to max settings on the latest games...

An AMD cpu is not going to stop you from achieving this goal. Benchmarks are marginal. You save a significant amount of money by choosing AMD, and you will NOT notice the difference with everyday applications, you will simply only notice the difference when run benchmarks and you see bar graphs. In gaming, you can also see it, but the simple fact of the matter is AMD is being "crushed" by Intel, at not even noticeable levels... You can't sit here and tell me that the slight FPS difference is worth spending ALL that money... It's just nonsense... and to say Intel is CRUSHING AMD is absurd... It's just not true...

It's sad to see a company go so far down hill when there product can serve the needs of the public just as well as the Intel product can...


Not everyone is trying to break records... and the CPU isn't what is going to bring you 120 fps, it's the GPU. If you've got Phenom x4, or a 2500k, you're good, and that's just the simple fact... I know this, because this is the hardware I use... Now, I'm sure I'll be quoted and flammed for my "false" accusations... but I assure you, as a gamer, and average user... you don't need the Core i7 extreme.... you don't... you don't need the one below it either... or the one below that one too...
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