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Was mentioned Veaam, looks promising, but wanted some input on what you use, and the + and or - 's.
Thanks!
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post #2 of 9
What VM host system is running the VMs you are backing up? We use Veeam on Hyper-v, but we use Acronis on the ESXi hosts...some times Acronis on the Hyper-V too...we like Acronis.

Though these are all the paid versions...I haven't played with any of the free versions

Aconis is nice for the block level dedupe...this actually does save on space.
Veeam doesn't work with the free version of ESXi...which we do use every now and then for something. So we just keep things the same across the board
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 10/25/13 at 10:45am
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vSphere for VM host, how are you liking Veeam?
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post #4 of 9
We use vRanger. It's good software, but very expensive. Personally, I believe it's worth it, but that will depend upon your budget, etc.

https://shop.software.dell.com/682/purl-vranger-pro
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post #5 of 9
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Originally Posted by coachmark2 View Post

We use vRanger. It's good software, but very expensive. Personally, I believe it's worth it, but that will depend upon your budget, etc.

https://shop.software.dell.com/682/purl-vranger-pro

Doesn't explain much about it, does it have unlimited use inside of the subscription?
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post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by lostsurfer View Post

Doesn't explain much about it, does it have unlimited use inside of the subscription?

For us, yes. We do nightly backups of 80-100 VMs to a colocation over 10GbE fiber. Not that our storage array can take that level of writes.... biggrin.gif

You can set it to run on any schedule you deem appropriate. As far as licensing, I'm fairly sure they don't limit the number of VMs you can backup.
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post #7 of 9
I've always been a fan of Microsoft DPM.

Depending on your current Microsoft situation, it may be the most affordable (i.e., you are a Microsoft shop and you have a Microsoft EA -- then you probably are already licensed for the System Center stack, including Data Protection Manager).
post #8 of 9
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Originally Posted by tycoonbob View Post

I've always been a fan of Microsoft DPM.

Depending on your current Microsoft situation, it may be the most affordable (i.e., you are a Microsoft shop and you have a Microsoft EA -- then you probably are already licensed for the System Center stack, including Data Protection Manager).

I'll look more into this, I'm not looking so much as cost being a factor as I am versatility. I'd like to be able to backup to exigrid, then de-dupe off site as well as write to tape. Lol, I call it the paranoid trifecta. thumb.gif
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Intel Core i7 2600K @ 4.4 P8P67 LE Radeon R9 290 8gb 1600mhz  
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WD Caviar Black Crucial M4  Windows 8.1 Pro x64 Asus 24" VS248H-P 
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19" Hanspree 19" Hanspree Logitech G510 Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 700-Watt 
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Logitech G700 / Razer Death Adder 2013 
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post #9 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by lostsurfer View Post

I'll look more into this, I'm not looking so much as cost being a factor as I am versatility. I'd like to be able to backup to exigrid, then de-dupe off site as well as write to tape. Lol, I call it the paranoid trifecta. thumb.gif

While I'm not familiar with ExaGrid, I do know that DPM will do D2D (Disk to Disk), D2T (Disk to Tape), and D2D2T (Disk to Disk to Tape) and can utilize native Windows dedupe options. Regardless, if you are backing up to a drive array (ExaGrid, for example) that can dedupe (i.e., dedupe your backups, outside of your backup system) then you will get that trifecta.
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