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If you get the 3rd adapter then you shouldn't need to put the router in another room. The point of it would be to strengthen the Powerline Network so it can reach the basement

From what you just said about the lightswitch, it sounds like there's limited wiring coming down to you're basement, and when you flip that switch off it weakens the signal by removing a path to your Powerline Adapter

If you could use your laptop as a router, than you could use a router as a router =P

It seems like you have 2 good options
1. get the 3rd adapter and hope that the reason the signal's not reaching your basement is because of the length of the wiring in your house. If that's the case then placing a 3rd adapter somewhere in between would bridge the connection

2. use an old router and the 2 adapters you already have
Take the one that's in your room right now, and plug it somewhere like at the top of the stairs with a router coming out of it. Maybe that'll give you strong wifi in the basement.
Additionally to that, you could get a bigger antenna and/or an amplifier to strengthen the signal to the basement

I am living in an apartment -- there's no basement, so you'd think it would be easier to get wifi into my room... rolleyes.gif And that light switch just turns off whatever is plugged into the socket. It's just designed that way for lamps; when I turned off the lights (out of habit), I accidentally turned off the adapter. And, for the record, I tried another outlet in my room that isn't connected to the switch, and I do not seem to have an improved signal.

This brings me to my next question for the LDV617.

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Speaking from experience, more than 2 adapters is not ideal. I thought when I found the powerline kits I had solved my houses networking problems, but I was so wrong. I have a Linksys 500 or 750 mb/s kit that got from fios aio router to the wall. Then on the other side of the house, I have the other end connected to a Netgear router.

THIS is what you should do, this way if you have a PC / Console you will get ethernet, while your mobile devices will get strong wifi.

When using multiple powerline adapters, I saw insane ping spikes and horrible results from pingtest/speedtest. Returned the next day.

If I use another router in my room, wouldn't it be just as weak as the direct connection that I have right now?
    
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Passion, my sincere apologies. The last cpl pages I've been responding to you based off what the OP's issue was. I flip back and forth between my subscribed pages and I didn't even notice. I'm sorry about that. I hate to give bad advice.
    
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Don't sweat it! Your posts are still insightful. thumb.gif
    
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A cpl questions for you....
How big is the apartment you live in?
What kind of router do you have?
Do you have sufficient wifi coverage in your apartment or do you just need ethernet in another room for gaming?
    
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My router is an Asus RT-N56U (w/ up-to-date firmware... updated it an hour ago or so). Other routers had poor performance in the two bedrooms, but this one actually reaches... the signal is pretty weak for gaming though. It is sufficient for web browsing and email.

The apartment is small compared to those with houses. It is approximately twenty normal pace steps from my PC to the living room closet that my router is located in. My hallway is shaped like a staple. My room is on one end, and the closet is on the other -- assuming you walking along the lines (something like this: [_ ... the longer line represents the two bedrooms... there is a bathroom and a wall in between the living room and my bedroom if I wanted to Hulk it through. Might be steel or concrete?
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Ok, so a cpl things to point out. Every router that i know of comes with omni-directional antenna's. That model you pointed to is Dual-Band so it has 2 omni-directional antenna's inside it. One of them is N-Band, which is generally the faster one (currently being kinda replaced by 802.11ac). One thing that 802.11n is infamous for is being incapable of transmitting and receiving signals through walls. So just by putting it in the closet, you are basically chopping off the stronger leg of that router

Now, omni-directional antenna's broadcast in a circular range (Picture a donut with the antenna in the middle). Placing them in the corner or end of where you need your wifi coverage is a big mistake. Basically you're setting up your network so you're neighbors get all your reception. One thing you can do with antenna's is add a wifi amplifier. The problem with omni-directional antenna's is when you amplify the signal, the donut gets bigger, but it also gets much thinner making the reception extremely spotty. Unfortunately, the antenna you have has internal antenna's so you can't add directional antenna's without modding the router.

Basically i strongly recommend you to move your router to somewhere in the center of your apartment. Should solve every problem you have. Including giving you access to the 300Mbps 802.11n band that i bet you can't even see because it's so weak

Hope this helps....

Also, for future people reading this thread... Powerline's are really meant for Big Houses and Offices where the area's too big for a wifi signal to cover. There's other uses, but generally, if you live in apartment there's a better solution

Passion, since you already bought a Powerline setup, you could try plugging your modem straight into your Powerline Jack. Then plugging the other Powerline Jack somewhere in the center of your apt and plug the router into that. Just make sure you use NO TYPE of surge protector or anything that adds extra ports on your electrical outlet, on either of the Powerline Jacks.
Can't hurt to give it a shot
Edited by kpoeticg - 10/30/13 at 9:13pm
    
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Ok, so a cpl things to point out. Every router that i know of comes with omni-directional antenna's. That model you pointed to is Dual-Band so it has 2 omni-directional antenna's inside it. One of them is N-Band, which is generally the faster one (currently being kinda replaced by 802.11ac). One thing that 802.11n is infamous for is being incapable of transmitting and receiving signals through walls. So just by putting it in the closet, you are basically chopping off the stronger leg of that router

Now, omni-directional antenna's broadcast in a circular range (Picture a donut with the antenna in the middle). Placing them in the corner or end of where you need your wifi coverage is a big mistake. Basically you're setting up your network so you're neighbors get all your reception. One thing you can do with antenna's is add a wifi amplifier. The problem with omni-directional antenna's is when you amplify the signal, the donut gets bigger, but it also gets much thinner making the reception extremely spotty. Unfortunately, the antenna you have has internal antenna's so you can't add directional antenna's without modding the router.

Basically i strongly recommend you to move your router to somewhere in the center of your apartment. Should solve every problem you have. Including giving you access to the 300Mbps 802.11n band that i bet you can't even see because it's so weak

Hope this helps....

Also, for future people reading this thread... Powerline's are really meant for Big Houses and Offices where the area's too big for a wifi signal to cover. There's other uses, but generally, if you live in apartment there's a better solution

Passion, since you already bought a Powerline setup, you could try plugging your modem straight into your Powerline Jack. Then plugging the other Powerline Jack somewhere in the center of your apt and plug the router into that. Just make sure you use NO TYPE of surge protector or anything that adds extra ports on your electrical outlet, on either of the Powerline Jacks.
Can't hurt to give it a shot

Unfortunately, I will not be able to move the router. The apartment was set up in such a way that the internet ethernet cable was routed into the closet from outside. However, there is an ethernet cable that goes to the TV in the living room. Perhaps, I could hide the router in the shelf above the blueray player... would that make a large difference? The TV can connect via WiFi, so that shouldn't be a problem...
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Passion, since you already bought a Powerline setup, you could try plugging your modem straight into your Powerline Jack. Then plugging the other Powerline Jack somewhere in the center of your apt and plug the router into that. Just make sure you use NO TYPE of surge protector or anything that adds extra ports on your electrical outlet, on either of the Powerline Jacks.
Can't hurt to give it a shot

That's a nice idea. I will give it a shot in the morning. smile.gif
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Passion, since you already bought a Powerline setup, you could try plugging your modem straight into your Powerline Jack. Then plugging the other Powerline Jack somewhere in the center of your apt and plug the router into that. Just make sure you use NO TYPE of surge protector or anything that adds extra ports on your electrical outlet, on either of the Powerline Jacks.
Can't hurt to give it a shot

Was thinking about the same thing, this could be the best shot at solving his coverage issues thumb.gif
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If I use another router in my room, wouldn't it be just as weak as the direct connection that I have right now?

No, basically you will have a new SSID in your room on the same network. I believe you can configure / hack most routers to work as a repeater / switch, but think of this setup as a router / switch.

It will add the flexibility that another router would, and it would be on the other side of the house -- where you wouldn't be able to install / put a modem. You can get a router that will do the trick for under 20$ at microcenter refurbished. I got one refurbished and unopened with gigabit lan for $18.
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Anytime you see a router advertised as Open-Source OpenWRT installed, or DD-WRT installed, that's a linux firmware for your router that opens worlds of possiblities of what you can do with it, including using it as a repeater. Some routers come with a repeater option already, but OpenWRT is the shizzznit. Some routers can be hacked to OpenWRT even if they aren't advertised like that. That's why the WRT54G used to be soooo damn popular. Because it was and still is easy to hack. I'm pretty sure you can install OpenWRT, DD-WRT, AND Tomato Firmware on it.

But this is getting a little too in depth and offtopic.gif
If anything i just said is interesting to you, Google will be your best friend in learning about it. If your routers compatible, new fw is easy to install. I highly recommend the option i mentioned about running the Powerline straight off the modem, and hooking the router up to the other powerline in a better location thumb.gif
    
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