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If it weren't for new AMD cards, 780 and 770 would not even be getting a price cut. 290x and 290 seem pretty amazing considering on a smaller die and have a larger bus. 780 and Titan need a modded bios and volt mod to beat the 290x. But, if we compare a water blocked non modded 290x to a water blocked non modded Titan, I would think that 290x would come out ahead while oc'd.

Then there is the matter of potential increase in performance from mantle. The claims are upto 35% performance increase. It may not be 35%, but it will definitely not be 0%. Let's split the baby in half , and say its 17%. A pretty impressive increase. 290x is newer tech and architecture. 780 can not be 4 way sli'd , without a hack, I believe. Scaling seems great for quad 290x vs quad Titan on higher resolutions.
So, putting it all together, if someone was looking for max performance with a quad set up, the only options would be 290x or quad Titan. Given, 290x price, performance and scaling, it makes it a non brainer for gaming on high resolution. Gsync has promise, but it is not free performance like Mantle. It would cost $175 for DIY kit, and most likely the monitors with Gsync enabled would be at least $150 higher than their non Gsync enabled counterparts.

As for the drivers, Nvidia drivers for multi GPUs have been less than ideal as of late. This may change going forward, but it certainly appears that AMD has caught up with its new frame pacing drivers.

Just my two cents.

I am going to have to completely agree with this statement.

Sorry folks, the 290/290X would get my money if I was buying today. Don't get me wrong, I love my Classy and don't regret buying it when I did. But if I was still on the fence, I would be picking up a 290 myself on Thursday.
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I love everything about this. Competition is a great thing, especially now that both companies have top tier products at the high end. I'm just tired of people spreading misinformation in this thread about one company being superior over another and vice versa. AMD and Nvidia now have competitive products at the high end, and it's forcing price drops. That's great for consumers.
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Why do people need to sit in a computer and argue all the time, saying "OMG NVIDIA RULES 290X NOT GOOD" or "AMD RULES 780 and TITAN SUCK BALLZ". Or "OMG UR AN NVIDIA FANBOY" or
OMG UR AN AMD FANBOY".

Seriously. Your ranting is not going to change anything.

Agreed.
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Yes, the 290x does outperform at an amazing price point.

Not true, performance is still up in the air at best, it's nothing we haven't seen already, and its still overpriced.
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When custom coolers come out, it's going to be ******* great.

That's freaking great. That's all.

Stop bashing on the people who already own a titan/gtx 780. They probably made the purchase even before they knew this card existed.

End of Story.

You make it sound like it was a mistake to do so. If i had the money and bought a Titan/780, I would be happily be bragging that I had 290X performance back in March.
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Honestly, pretty much NO ONE outside of these PC tech forums gives a ish about overclocking. Even I don't overclock my graphics card for gaming because it's simply not worth the stability issues and the hassle it takes to set profiles, stress test it etc etc. It's just not worth it in real life.

That said, if the 780 does drop to $549, the R9 isn't the kind of price/performance anymore. Sure you do get 2-3 fps more at certain resolutions, but it's going to make absolutely ZERO difference in real life.... unlike noise which is an absolute NO for me. I'd definitely take the GTX780 for $549 over the R9 any day every day.
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From a pure dollar and cents perspective, Nvidia isn't admitting defeat but laughing its butt off as they could milk the market for for 8 months, and now they can simply lower prices and take the wind out of AMD's sails.

Nvidia can afford to bleed AMD out for a prolonged period of time, and AMD knows it too. But, from a consumer perspective, this new release is a good thing. Enjoy while the competition lasts thumb.gif

sorry but you need to get a reality check. Nvidia is faced with a shrinking dGPU market. Intel's Haswell and AMD's Richland have started the demise of the entry level GPU. Broadwell and Kaveri will accelerate it. Once stacked DRAM is available the APUs will effectively kill of the USD 50 - 100 dGPU market which is the volume part of the market. who gets worst hit. Nvidia . as they have no desktop or notebook APUs. thumb.gif

AMD's semi-custom business raked in USD 438 million in Q3 2013 (30% of overall revenues as told by CFO on earnings call) with a profit of USD 65 - 70 million (mid- teens margin) .this is more than AMD's GPU division revenue and profit. so you are a long way off.Next year AMD will have their first ARM64 based micro- servers and in all likelihood their first ARM64 based tablet SKU. AMD has effectively started diversifying its revenue streams. no more are they at the mercy of Intel and Nvidia.

btw the prices on GTX 780 and GTX 770 are good at USD 500 and USD 330. GTX 780 Ti at USD 700 is not a good deal. the custom R9 290X cards will land at USD 600 and make the GTX 780 Ti a tough sell.

http://techreport.com/news/25570/nvidia-cuts-gtx-770-780-prices-primes-gtx-780-ti-for-11-7
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Honestly, pretty much NO ONE outside of these PC tech forums gives a ish about overclocking. Even I don't overclock my graphics card for gaming because it's simply not worth the stability issues and the hassle it takes to set profiles, stress test it etc etc. It's just not worth it in real life.

That said, if the 780 does drop to $549, the R9 isn't the kind of price/performance anymore. Sure you do get 2-3 fps more at certain resolutions, but it's going to make absolutely ZERO difference in real life.... unlike noise which is an absolute NO for me. I'd definitely take the GTX780 for $549 over the R9 any day every day.

Yes, but AMD has one more ace up their sleeves: the R9 290. If it is close to the same performance as the 290x, but it's $100 cheaper, then we're right back in the same boat before these price drops. The R9 290 will sell like hotcakes at a $450 price point. Lets just wait and see what happens before everyone declares the 780 the winner. wink.gif
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post #167 of 883
About damn time.

The GTX 780 is in a really hard spot at $500. The R9 290X is $550 , the R9 290 will likely be $400-500 or somewhere around that.

The GTX 770 is faster than R9-280X in texture heavy stuff due to TMU count. That's the biggest difference.

Even if you are a diehard Geforce fanboy, you should be thanking AMD for the competition-based price cuts.
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770: $329
780: $499
780Ti: $699

Source

770 @ $329 - pretty good.
780 @ $499 - AWESOME!! smile.gif
780 Ti @ $699 - ...what the hell, Nvidia. What the hell. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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Yes, but AMD has one more ace up their sleeves: the R9 290. If it is close to the same performance as the 290x, but it's $100 cheaper, then we're right back in the same boat before these price drops. The R9 290 will sell like hotcakes at a $450 price point. Lets just wait and see what happens before everyone declares the 780 the winner. wink.gif

That would certainly turn the tables around in AMDs favor then. Can't wait for that biggrin.gif

EDIT: if the 780 ends being 499 that would be amazing.
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sorry but you need to get a reality check. Nvidia is faced with a shrinking dGPU market. Intel's Haswell and AMD's Richland have started the demise of the entry level GPU. Broadwell and Kaveri will accelerate it. Once stacked DRAM is available the APUs will effectively kill of the USD 50 - 100 dGPU market which is the volume part of the market. who gets worst hit. Nvidia . as they have no desktop or notebook APUs. thumb.gif

AMD's semi-custom business raked in USD 438 million in Q3 2013 (30% of overall revenues as told by CFO on earnings call) with a profit of USD 65 - 70 million (mid- teens margin) .this is more than AMD's GPU division revenue and profit. so you are a long way off.Next year AMD will have their first ARM64 based micro- servers and in all likelihood their first ARM64 based tablet SKU. AMD has effectively started diversifying its revenue streams. no more are they at the mercy of Intel and Nvidia.

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