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Sounds like you already decided on the software used to manage the storage but I was going to mention WHS v1 anyway as it does fulfill all the requirements and is extremely easy/works. Also, with a max of 4 gigs of system memory is relatively easy to virtualize in case the underlying hardware needs to be replaced/upgraded/whatever (no need to re-install). Not as cool as the latest ZFS perhaps but it still works.

For a year or so I did actually run an iSCSI FreeNAS with ZFS on an ATOM box with 4 gigs of memory and it worked fine, a least for my purposes. But I only had around 4 or TBs in it so this may or may not be indicative of anything useful.
 
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What RAID set-up will you be useing?

With that much storage you want ad least RAID 5.


I missed ZFS.
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Okay so A LOT has changed since I last posted and the build is currently under way.

The main change that has happened so far is that I have changed to a socket 2011 board as a friend of mine got had a P9X79 and offered to give it to me, so that was a no brainer. I then managed to get an xeon 1620 for £130 so again, no brainer there.

I have changed the software I will be using now as well, I will instead be using Windows Server 2012 (my friend works in a computer shop with a technet subscription so they have offered to give me a key biggrin.gif) and using storage spaces with thin provisioning in the parity mode. This gives me exactly what I need from te system with ability to use the windows environment for other tasks.

Specs as they stand:

Asus P9X79 - Arrived in case.
Intel Xeon 1620 - In post.
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Kingston HyperX 16GB (8GB X 2) - In post.
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Asus GeForce 210 - Arrived in case, using for video.
8x 3T Toshiba drives - Should be arriving today.
Kingston 120GB SSDNOW - Had this laying around, using for OS.

Edit:
Almost forgot I'll be using a HighPoint RocketRAID 2720SGL in JBOD mode for Sata 6/gs.
Edited by Rian - 11/7/13 at 2:13am
   
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Update: Hard drives arrived, just 2 more to install.

Bad picture, will put some good ones up when I have everything thumb.gif

   
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nice thumb.gif


BTW ZFS doesnt 'need' a lot of RAM. It all depends on the features you want to run. ZFS loves individual RAM for disc caching and performance takes a dive the less you have. The general rule is 1GB per 1TB of data but here we are talking BIG speeds. In fact ZFS just pootling along playing 1 1080p feed from a disc and performing a copy operation or two may only really need 2GB RAM.

to be safe put 8gb in at a minimum and be done with it. i have 16gb in mine as i wish to grow the solution



edit* nice case. I have a similar one with a gold 360w PSU and a 30w idle I haven't posted it yet though
Edited by Pip Boy - 11/7/13 at 8:59am
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nice thumb.gif


BTW ZFS doesnt 'need' a lot of RAM. It all depends on the features you want to run. ZFS loves individual RAM for disc caching and performance takes a dive the less you have. The general rule is 1GB per 1TB of data but here we are talking BIG speeds. In fact ZFS just pootling along playing 1 1080p feed from a disc and performing a copy operation or two may only really need 2GB RAM.

to be safe put 8gb in at a minimum and be done with it. i have 16gb in mine as i wish to grow the solution



edit* nice case. I have a similar one with a gold 360w PSU and a 30w idle I haven't posted it yet though

Thanks, I will no longer be using ZFS, I will instead be using Windows Storage spaces with parity instead thumb.gif
   
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Thanks, I will no longer be using ZFS, I will instead be using Windows Storage spaces with parity instead thumb.gif

Just note that write speeds will only be in the 30-45MB/s range even with 8 drives. I believe you can use the SSD as a write-back cache to help performance. I actually just got a 50GB SSD for $29 to test this....


For the OS, you might want to consider RAID1 of some smaller HDDs.
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Just note that write speeds will only be in the 30-45MB/s range even with 8 drives. I believe you can use the SSD as a write-back cache to help performance. I actually just got a 50GB SSD for $29 to test this....


For the OS, you might want to consider RAID1 of some smaller HDDs.

Yes I read that I can add SSD's to the pool as journaled so this would act as a cache, I'll run it off the motherboards SATA3. One site said I will need 2 ssd's but I am looking into this now.

Two ssd's are needed to provide resilience.
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Yes I read that I can add SSD's to the pool as journaled so this would act as a cache, I'll run it off the motherboards SATA3. One site said I will need 2 ssd's but I am looking into this now.

Two ssd's are needed to provide resilience.

I believe two SSDs are required to store the journal. If the journal is lost, the data is messed up so they require mirror storage.

If you upgrade to Windows Server 2012 R2 (which should be free if you have TechNet), MS added tiered storage and write-back cache to Storage Spaces.


Personally, I run 3x3TB HDDs..... 3 disks are assigned for parity for my read-only media and the same 3 disks in simple for backups.
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