Originally Posted by Ashuiegi
my point is why would you want 1000 watts for a computer ? it s pointless . all the custom/home made car sound system i've heard always had ringing and reverberation in the bass , sure they can produce lower freq and louder sound but it not clear enough . i find my logitech with my soundcard and bass flex give me a more pleasant and clear sound . of course it s not made to impress ladies on parking lot or next to the beach , it doesn't look cool and it s not made to be loud.
i don't need these low freq for gamming and movie , they don't make the exprience better specially in game with a lot of gun fire and explosion , it s more annoying then anything.
at 23 hz is just not sound anymore for me it s just vibration and often what you ear is thing shaking rather the actual bass , it is used to make high db reading but not quality sound
If you'll notice, I was talking more about the enclosure than power. $100 plate amp is only going to be 100w RMS, which is what I originally stated he should use. The enclosure makes the sound, not the power. The power handling figures were simply an easy way to measure the HUGE differences in quality between the Tang Band and the Alpine. The Tang Band drivers are honestly great, I love them to death. Logitech's box design is absolutely horrible though, and their amplifiers / crossovers are even worse.
The problem with the Logitech's is their extremely lacking low end (they drop off sharp at 40Hz which just is NOT low enough for such a large chunk of money). They also have HUGE frequency gaps at around 200-500Hz because the satelite drivers aren't capable of going below 500Hz ish, and the subwoofer can't extend higher than 200. That leaves another issue, the subwoofer going above 80Hz.... your front speakers should extend that low. Sorry but I don't like voices coming out of my subwoofer, so I know where its at. That's not the way a subwoofer is meant to sound.
Overall, they're okay media speakers, sure. But they're over priced, and you can EASILY build a better sounding system.
I never said somebody should use 1000w for their PC. My mention of 1000w rack amps earlier was me talking about my own personal ventures for what's going to be my home theater setup in the future.
You either don't have an ear for proper sound, you don't care, or you haven't ACTUALLY heard better. The human ear is capable of 20Hz-20,000Hz (generalized). When I make a sound system, I like to hear that ENTIRE spectrum. Also, FEELING that extremely low end bass below 25Hz......that's what makes a good system even greater. Not necessarily the "rattling everything" because that can be resolved a lot of times by simple sound dampening materials. It's just part of the high end subwoofer experience, feeling your sub bass notes. It's great in movies and games alike.
Originally Posted by Cavi Mike
Originally Posted by pioneerisloud
As soon as I get a 5.1 receiver, I plan to use my Fi BL 12 at 2ohm stereo off my old school Pioneer receiver for 700w RMS to it. That has to wait till I'm no longer in an apartment though obviously, lol. That'll at least hold me over till I get two Dayton 1000w rack amps (or something else to get 2k at 1ohm).
Not necessary to run such low impedance in the home where high voltages are available. It's only necessary in cars that run 12v; Getting large amounts of wattage is easier to simply draw gobs of current with a low impedance driver. This is why home and professional drivers don't have any need to go below 4ohm.
My sub is DVC 2ohm, so I'm either 1ohm or 4ohm with it. And it takes 2k RMS, so that makes things difficult.
My Pioneer receiver does 350w RMS per channel at 2ohm, so I'm going to run it that way for a while. Either that or I'll sell my Fi and build something smaller. 2000w RMS in a house is just a tad difficult to make work. Moreso than in a car, lol. Also was going to use my HCCA for this purpose as well (since I thought my Fi was blown), but sadly I think I'll just end up selling them both in the near future and going with a different route. Maybe just cheap out and buy a pair of Polk PSW505's or something. Or maybe the BIC F12's.
Originally Posted by Ashuiegi
i never said the power was the problem with quality , it s the home made stuff that is often not good enough.
how well yes if you want a 100 db in front of your computer your are free to do it , but it has nothing to do with overclock lol.
don't blame me for not recomanding using 1000 watts amp for a computer setup , it s absurd in the first place.
if you want to have a setup so loud that it can harm your hearing you are free to do it , but don't say it's stupid to recommand otherwise.
You've clearly never heard a real subwoofer, with a real designed enclosure that's properly tuned then. I think that much is safe to say.
You do realize that my cheap $10 Logitech speakers (shutup, I know I hate on Logitech but these were cheap), are capable of 96dB at 1w / 1m right? 100dB isn't all that much.
We're an enthusiast website, and enthusiast level audio is part of that experience.
There's nothing wrong with custom building subwoofers, I do it all the time in cars and homes alike. If done PROPERLY, you'll have a superior product, period.
(edit, removed double post)Edited by pioneerisloud - 11/2/13 at 2:43am