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post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by Spectre- View Post

i dont want a silly 256 bit memory bus that cant handle vram over 3 gb

so no thanks to the silly 4gb 680/770

This,

and the 280x > gtx 770
post #12 of 19
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i dont want a silly 256 bit memory bus that cant handle vram over 3 gb

so no thanks to the silly 4gb 680/770

What just how the 7970 and 280x can't handle over 3GB of vram because it doesn't have it so would choke anyways?
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This,

and the 280x > gtx 770

You'll also find benchmarks where 770 beats the 280x so how does that work? That means you could just as easily say gtx 770 > 280x and there isn't really the price/performance difference anymore.
Edited by smaudioz - 10/29/13 at 7:25am
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post #14 of 19
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What just how the 7970 and 280x can't handle over 3GB of vram because it doesn't have it so would choke anyways?

i didnt understand what you typed

but heres an explanantion the 384bit memory bus can handle upto 6 gb vram as we have seen with the titan

Nvidia to release the 680 on time cut corners and made a silly 256 memory bus which is good enough for 2gb but as soon as it aproaches that 3 gb mark the card itself poops itself
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post #15 of 19
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i didnt understand what you typed

but heres an explanantion the 384bit memory bus can handle upto 6 gb vram as we have seen with the titan

Nvidia to release the 680 on time cut corners and made a silly 256 memory bus which is good enough for 2gb but as soon as it aproaches that 3 gb mark the card itself poops itself

You said the 256bit on the 770 can't handle more than 3GB VRAM, but the 7970 can't handle more than 3GB VRAM either since the 3GB version card only has 3GB VRAM. Once that memory runs out it will choke so it doesn't matter if it's memory bus can handle a lot more than that does it. You can bet once a 7970 gets near 3GB Vram usage (actual usage not allocation) it's GPU will be crapping itself as well because it's no more powerful than a 770.

I am not on one side or the other here by the way, I'm considering both cards. But once a 770 or a 7970 approaches 3GB of VRAM usage the card won't be powerful enough to keep up good framerate anymore will it. Also if a 384 bit bus can handle up to 6GB then surely a 256 bit bus can handle up to 3?
Edited by smaudioz - 10/29/13 at 7:35am
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post #16 of 19
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You said the 256bit on the 770 can't handle more than 3GB VRAM, but the 7970 can't handle more than 3GB VRAM either since the 3GB version card only has 3GB VRAM. Once that memory runs out it will choke so it doesn't matter if it's memory bus can handle a lot more than that does it. You can bet once a 7970 gets near 3GB Vram usage (actual usage not allocation) it's GPU will be crapping itself as well because it's no more powerful than a 770.
It's ACTUALLY more powerful than a 770. @ 1.2GHz it will make a 1.3GHz 770 crap itself smile.gif
Besides you have to state what 7970 review you are looking at
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post #17 of 19
Let's focus on helping the op stay within the budget . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127732

from 2 465. i am not sure how much performance increase you'll get but even with my 7950 stock i was able to max out BF4 Beta using 1080.

oc'ed to 7970 GHz speeds . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/1393868

edit: op, your 940 @ 4GHz is about equal to my thuban @ 4.2GHz. here it is BF4 ready with the 7950 at 7970GHz speeds . . .

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/7325735

It shares the same settings as my Second Intel Rig using 1080. The same. Maxed out BF3, C2, BF4, and Very High/2MSAA in C3.
Edited by rdr09 - 10/29/13 at 7:43am
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post #18 of 19
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It's ACTUALLY more powerful than a 770. @ 1.2GHz it will make a 1.3GHz 770 crap itself smile.gif
Besides you have to state what 7970 review you are looking at

The difference in frame rates between them in games that don't have an nvidia or amd bias (e.g. dirt showdown for amd or batman for nvidia) is negligible , it's around +/- 5fps at most so that makes no difference to me.

as for reviews one example is this for one of the games I'm going to be playing the most (ArmA III). On this benchmark even the 680 beats the 7970 ghz by 6fps, the 770 beats it by 9 and this is a game without any nvidia bias, apparently the amd cards did better on arma 2 operation arrowhead. Anyways I'm sure you can find other benches and reviews where the 7970 beats the 770 by that much too.

http://www.techspot.com/review/712-arma-3-benchmarks/page4.html

On HardOCP it is more even with the 7970ghz having a higher minimum framerate but the 770 having a higher maximum framerate.

Basically like I said there are games where the 7970 and 280x win and there are games where the 770 wins. Unless you are really anal about framerate and a couple of fps matters to you that much, the cards are equal in performance.

If I hadn't heard about all the artifacting issues I would maybe just rebuy the 7970 matrix platinum I took back, but they said they had a lot returned due to that issue so I wouldn't go for it now.

Anyways my advice (and what I'm going to do personally) is wait until the BF4 benchmarks are out and the R9 290 has been released on thursday, and then make your mind up. I'd say if Bf4 suffers at all from 2GB vram at 1080p then you know it's time to go for a 3GB card at least as other new games will come out which do the same. Also the price of the R9 290 might cause even more price drops.
Edited by smaudioz - 10/29/13 at 8:00am
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post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by ClickJacker View Post

I haven't been keeping up with the latest GPU's so I was wondering is there anything in the $200 - $300 range that would give me a little boost in performance?

I just got a 7950 for $209 biggrin.gif

I'm certain it would give you a boost.

edit: Those seem to be gone sad-smiley-002.gif

I'd watch this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GV-R797OC-3GD-Radeon-HD-7970-3GB-384-bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-Video-Card-/251368140859?_trksid=p2054897.l4276
Chances are you could get it for $250 or less

or..a 660 would be an improvement as well..
wouldn't have the grunt of a 7970 though smile.gif
 
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