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Hey guys,

I had an important question. I just got my second 4 gig stick of RAM, and I was wondering if I should still keep the pagefile. I did some research on this before I decided to make this thread and I found some interesting things all over the internet.

- Win7 loves the pagefile and it shouldn't be disabled
- Pagefile should be Peak commit - Total RAM ( makes sense, but my peak commit is ~6GB with 2 games, plenty of Chrome and explorer windows, Steam, Foobar2k and such )
- The pagefile is required for dumping memory in case of a BSOD. ( I do like to keep track of my bluescreens when overclocking )

So I was wondering if I should disable my pagefile altogether, or keep it at a smaller value like 1 GB or so ( so my BSODs are recorded ).

Also, my new SSD will be here in a few days, and it'll be a TLC SSD ( 840 Evo 120GB ) and I don't want endurance issues so should I just disable the pagefile there cuz I see many turn it off when they get an SSD. Or should I put a negligible pagefile on my mechanical drive?

TIA
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    Unless you really want those memory dumps, I suggest running with no pagefile.  You will get the best performance that way.  If at some point you experience "Out of virtual memory" errors, you can always create a pagefile.
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Thanks for the reply.

I think my overclock is pretty stable right now, since I'm not getting a CPU cooler any time soon, and I won't have the inclination to OC. Since I haven't had any BSODs lately, I think I'll just disable the pagefile and once my SSD gets here tomorrow, I'll put a small 512MB pagefile on the mechanical drive considering people say the memory dumb is somewhere in the range of 400MB.

But what about the apps that require a pagefile? I do believe some Adobe apps require it.
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    It is possible that some programs may need a pagefile.  It is really a matter of trial and error.  If the program says you don't have enough memory installed, or if it says "Out of memory", or crashes with no warning, you may need a full-size pagefile after all.  With adequate RAM installed, I haven't had problems with running without a pagefile.  Again, that could simply be the software I am using. smile.gif
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Hey guys,

I had an important question. I just got my second 4 gig stick of RAM, and I was wondering if I should still keep the pagefile. I did some research on this before I decided to make this thread and I found some interesting things all over the internet.

- Win7 loves the pagefile and it shouldn't be disabled
- Pagefile should be Peak commit - Total RAM ( makes sense, but my peak commit is ~6GB with 2 games, plenty of Chrome and explorer windows, Steam, Foobar2k and such )
- The pagefile is required for dumping memory in case of a BSOD. ( I do like to keep track of my bluescreens when overclocking )

So I was wondering if I should disable my pagefile altogether, or keep it at a smaller value like 1 GB or so ( so my BSODs are recorded ).

Also, my new SSD will be here in a few days, and it'll be a TLC SSD ( 840 Evo 120GB ) and I don't want endurance issues so should I just disable the pagefile there cuz I see many turn it off when they get an SSD. Or should I put a negligible pagefile on my mechanical drive?

TIA


You will NOT have endurance issues even with TLC NAND.

Do you do memory dump analysis? If so, set your paging file equal to RAM size on the SSD.

Otherwise, just create a 1GB page file on the SSD and forget about it. No need to ever worry about it again.
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    It is possible that some programs may need a pagefile.  It is really a matter of trial and error.  If the program says you don't have enough memory installed, or if it says "Out of memory", or crashes with no warning, you may need a full-size pagefile after all.  With adequate RAM installed, I haven't had problems with running without a pagefile.  Again, that could simply be the software I am using. smile.gif

Ah I think I'll keep a minimal pagefile just in case.

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You will NOT have endurance issues even with TLC NAND.

Do you do memory dump analysis? If so, set your paging file equal to RAM size on the SSD.

Otherwise, just create a 1GB page file on the SSD and forget about it. No need to ever worry about it again.

Are you sure about the endurance? When I was reading the AT 840 Evo review saw that an XS user killed his 840 vanilla after 432TB of writes. Right now I'm at .12TB which seems weird because well, I tried to unsuccessfully ghost my Win7 install over a few times ( it's about 15-16GB; fresh install ) and then moved my Steam folder ( minus backups ) over. But then again, it does make sense. I'll check out my regular usage for a few weeks, and then put a pagefile on the SSD and check out my results after. Reason is, I don't particularly upgrade very often, so I don't want to wear out the drive anytime in the next 5-7 years. Or at least till SSD prices drop to levels where I don't have to think about another mechanical drive at all.

My memory dump analysis is merely looking at a few lines that state the cause of the BSOD ( in case of hardware BSODs ) or the driver ( in case of those BSODs, like that stupid Gigabyte LAN speed up nonsense ) so it's not THAT important as such. Put a 200-1024MB pagefile on my mechanical drive though.

However, after getting my SSD, I've barely heard my 7200.10 at all ( there was a lot of pagefile thrashing when I had 4GB of RAM ) and I think that's excellent. And my stuff loads so FAST! I'm a happy camper right now.
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