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Originally Posted by smaudioz View Post

Well you can have a guess that games will start using multi-threading more and in that case it would be wiser choice to buy a CPU with more threads.

People predicted that 2 years ago.

If they intentionally bought 8 core CPUs for gaming, well, they made the wrong investment. Not to say that the CPU is instantly rubbish, but they didn't get what they were hoping for.



2~3 years has passed with very limited games that support 4 core CPUs, what makes you think that 8 cores could be utilized decently within the next 2-3 years?


I'd stick to 4 cores if I were OP.

I don't agree that futureproof doesn't exist. But I think it only exists when you can see a trend. Currently even 4-core games aren't everywhere, I really wouldn't bet on 8-core games showing up in the near future.
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post #12 of 39
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2~3 years has passed with very limited games that support 4 core CPUs, what makes you think that 8 cores could be utilized decently within the next 2-3 years?

The new generation of consoles perhaps? I hope not personally, because I don't want to have to upgrade from my 2500k for a while and I hope I won't need to. I've not even overclocked the thing yet as I haven't required any extra performance from it and haven't wanted to risk system stability without a good reason to.
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post #13 of 39
Something to consider here is cost to potential.

The AMD 8 core processors right now offer a great cost to potential option when it comes to looking forward. In actual game play with the same video card unless you start pushing monster multi card rigs the AMD FX pretty much holds it's own against anything from Intel. There is no Intel game play experience advantage.

Buying NOW with a look forward and not taking into account upgrades over the next couple of years the FX looks to me to be the best choice for the money at this time.

Personally if I was building now, okay not me because I want SFF and the FX cannot deliver there. I would buy an FX 8 core and get a solid video card like a R9 280x or 290X or 770 or 780 and a 1440 monitor and enjoy my gaming.
post #14 of 39
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Something to consider here is cost to potential.

The AMD 8 core processors right now offer a great cost to potential option when it comes to looking forward. In actual game play with the same video card unless you start pushing monster multi card rigs the AMD FX pretty much holds it's own against anything from Intel. There is no Intel game play experience advantage.

Buying NOW with a look forward and not taking into account upgrades over the next couple of years the FX looks to me to be the best choice for the money at this time.

Personally if I was building now, okay not me because I want SFF and the FX cannot deliver there. I would buy an FX 8 core and get a solid video card like a R9 280x or 290X or 770 or 780 and a 1440 monitor and enjoy my gaming.

Yeah, I'd probably do the same, but if the value for money wasn't as much of a factor and I could afford it I'd probably still go for an intel instead. The thing is you'd maybe be looking at about £100 more than an FX 8350 for a good i7 and if you're on a smaller budget and don't have any requirements that only intel CPU'S offer it probably wouldn't be worth it.
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Something to consider here is cost to potential.

The AMD 8 core processors right now offer a great cost to potential option when it comes to looking forward. In actual game play with the same video card unless you start pushing monster multi card rigs the AMD FX pretty much holds it's own against anything from Intel. There is no Intel game play experience advantage.

Buying NOW with a look forward and not taking into account upgrades over the next couple of years the FX looks to me to be the best choice for the money at this time.

Personally if I was building now, okay not me because I want SFF and the FX cannot deliver there. I would buy an FX 8 core and get a solid video card like a R9 280x or 290X or 770 or 780 and a 1440 monitor and enjoy my gaming.

Unfortunately, those options are out of my budget, and as I said, I won't be gaming for more than the next year or so, so I wouldn't really be getting the full potential out of that computer. Also, I prefer to stay away from AMD CPUs because they seem to tend to be slower than intel at the moment by a fair bit, and in terms of future proofing, I'm more looking at future proofing for the CPU rather than the GPU, but thanks for your input smile.gif
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post #16 of 39
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If you want to try and "future proof" it, I'd say at this point buy an i7 and not an i5. Or maybe an 8 core AMD like the 8350.

I completely agree with this. Games and future games have started taking advantage of more cores, and I'm sure hyper threading will come into it in the future.
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Okay I agree with the hyper threading and overclocking point for gaming in the future, but what about future proofing it in the sense that I want it to be able to run fast and retain it's performance in future years for the purposes of multitasking, browsing the internet, social networking and some light gaming - is it really worth spending 100 NZD extra on an i7 with HT for those purposes or OC'ing a 3570k?
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post #18 of 39
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Okay I agree with the hyper threading and overclocking point for gaming in the future, but what about future proofing it in the sense that I want it to be able to run fast and retain it's performance in future years for the purposes of multitasking, browsing the internet, social networking and some light gaming - is it really worth spending 100 NZD extra on an i7 with HT for those purposes or OC'ing a 3570k?

You won't be overclocking anything on the motherboards you're looking at buying. Also as said you can get an 8 core AMD FX 8350 for about 100 less than a new i7.
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If that what you want, then a 4770k or 4770 (no oc).
Multitasking what you want, then yes. I went with a 3770k for the extra $100 as for that reason. main was gaming, 2nd was productivity.

A CPU is harder to upgrade, as you need to replace the Mobo. GPU get a faster one or get a 2nd one of the same to xfire or SLI to improve performance.
    
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You won't be overclocking anything on the motherboards you're looking at buying. Also as said you can get an 8 core AMD FX 8350 for about 100 less than a new i7.

I'm talking about using a Z77 to OC a 3570k (which I'm 100% sure will work) and for a 4770 I'll get an H87m mobo which I won't OC with.

Okay, well if the processor is definitely going to make a difference, then which one should I get, the 4770 with a slightly less able mobo, or a 3570k with a solid Z77 mobo?
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