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Would be better to go Intel if its for gaming.

I had a FX8350 for a couple of weeks and it was mediocre in most games compared to my current Intel CPU.

Wait for Z97 and i5-4690K/i7-4790K and upgrade, you will see huge improvements.
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I like this thread. It brings up a question for me as well. I have a phenom 965be which I had overclocked to 4.0 on teh stock cooler but when gaming and such it was just too annoyingly loud. So, I took the OC down to 3.7 and usually keep it underclocked to 2.6 to reduce noise. It plays most of my games just fine at 2.6, albeit maxed out (but MUCH quieter). I also do a lot of blu ray compression with handbrake and makeMKV. Would an upgrade to the FX6300 be a worthwhile upgrade for the video compression? I'm satisfied with the 965be as far as gaming goes, but it takes about 5 hours to compress a blu ray from 20gb to 9gb. Which I can live with, but being faster would be awesome as it wouldn't be tying up my computer for 5 hours per movie (handbrake maxes out the cpu during compression).

this is my setup...

mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514
Graphics:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161379
Ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171061


Eventually, I want tup upgrade my graphics card, but money is tight and i can play all my games on high or better settings. Can't do TressFX in Tomb Raider though.

thanks!

Umm - I'm not familiar with Handbrake and video compression, so the question is - is it a floating point load or integer load? Thing is a "6 core" new AMD CPU's have only three floating point units while old CPU's have true cores where each core has both integer and floating point units. You might have better results going for a true 6 core chip second hand, say a 1055T or 1090T if it's a floating point heavy load.

For all practical purposes your CPU is probably as good as any of the Intel or AMD more recent offerings. I went from AMD 1055T to i7-3820 and it does not "feel" any faster. Sure I see approx 30% jump in floating point performance (from ~70 GFlops to ~100 GFlops) but most of the stuff I do other than some computations that are floating point heavy for all practical purposes if I would just sit in front of my system I probably could not tell which is AMD and which is Intel one without looking it up. BTW, the main reason for me for upgrading was quad channel ram, not the number of channels but amount I could get, I wanted 64 GB of RAM smile.gif
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Would be better to go Intel if its for gaming.

I had a FX8350 for a couple of weeks and it was mediocre in most games compared to my current Intel CPU.

Wait for Z97 and i5-4690K/i7-4790K and upgrade, you will see huge improvements.

You can tell the difference o.O ? I went from 1055T to i7-3820 and can't tell much difference without running some benchmark.
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Umm - I'm not familiar with Handbrake and video compression, so the question is - is it a floating point load or integer load? Thing is a "6 core" new AMD CPU's have only three floating point units while old CPU's have true cores where each core has both integer and floating point units. You might have better results going for a true 6 core chip second hand, say a 1055T or 1090T if it's a floating point heavy load.

For all practical purposes your CPU is probably as good as any of the Intel or AMD more recent offerings. I went from AMD 1055T to i7-3820 and it does not "feel" any faster. Sure I see approx 30% jump in floating point performance (from ~70 GFlops to ~100 GFlops) but most of the stuff I do other than some computations that are floating point heavy for all practical purposes if I would just sit in front of my system I probably could not tell which is AMD and which is Intel one without looking it up. BTW, the main reason for me for upgrading was quad channel ram, not the number of channels but amount I could get, I wanted 64 GB of RAM smile.gif

You're talking over my head a bit. I don't know about the floating vs integer load. Do you have a link to an article or post I can read to educate myself?

By all means, I'm happy with my 965 for daily tasks and gaming. I think my graphics card is my bottleneck as far as gaming. I just want to encode and compress video faster without losing anything on the gaming side. If I get a gaming performance boost, great, but not necessary.

If one of the FX8xxx series is even better I'd consider it, but don't want to go much over $150 if I can help it.
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The 9370, probably not worth it, it's around $240ish I think, I would say since the 8320 is EXACTLY the same cpu just lower clock speed and is $100 cheaper, I'd say that is worth it.

Honestly it's really up to you, you can save up and get an intel rig which would cost you, it would be better, but not really a massive difference if just gaming vs 8320, sure you lose some fps, but you does cost a lot more and you start to get diminishing returns.

My vote get the 8320 if your motherboard is compatible, sell your current cpu for $50 and you have a $100 cpu that's pretty decent that you can overclock, and perhaps you get something that can clock just as good, if not better than a 9370 or 9590.
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You can tell the difference o.O ? I went from 1055T to i7-3820 and can't tell much difference without running some benchmark.

I sure can. Much higher FPS in pretty much all games I play.

In some games, there is not much difference tho.. BF3/4, Metro 2033 for example. GPU limited games. But most games benefit greatly from the CPU and scale very well with OC too. Especially MMOs!

I'm still playing Skyrim and WOW, and I got insane improvements. Like +100% FPS. I don't even need OSD to know my FPS is much much higher. Far more smooth and responsive gameplay.

Look here: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6
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You can tell the difference o.O ? I went from 1055T to i7-3820 and can't tell much difference without running some benchmark.

Me too. Went from a 8320 and a kaveri to a 4670K and its more snappy.
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I sure can. Much higher FPS in pretty much all games I play.

In some games, there is not much difference tho.. BF3/4, Metro 2033 for example. GPU limited games. But most games benefit greatly from the CPU and scale very well with OC too. Especially MMOs!

I'm still playing Skyrim and WOW, and I got insane improvements. Like +100% FPS. I don't even need OSD to know my FPS is much much higher. Far more smooth and responsive gameplay.

Look here: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6

Hm that might explain it. Only MMO I play is EVE Online and I'm more into RTS/FPS games. I do play Skyrim but started relatively recently so did not play it back on AMD platform.
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Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Gigabyte 390X G1 Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
64 GB Barracuda 3 TB WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB Sythe big shuriken rev B Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 
MonitorMonitorMonitorMonitor
DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i Modded Sharkoon VS-3 Logitech G700s 
Mouse Pad
3M Ergonomic 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 3820 X79-UP4 Sapphire 7950 FleX OC XFX 6770 Eyefinity 5 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
Club3D 7870 Eyefinity 6 64 GB Samsung 750 GB F3 Barracuda 3 TB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Green 3 TB Crucial M4 256 GB Crucial M4 64 GB Barracuda 4 TB 
CoolingOSMonitorMonitor
Custom loop Windows 7 Pro 64 bit DELL U2311H (x3) DELL U2312HM (x2) 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
9.7'' 2048x1536 (x3) IPAD3 retina Asus PB287Q 4K CM Quickfire TK (red) Corsair AX-1200i 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Modded Chieftec Smart WH-02B-B-OB Logitech G700s 3M Ergonomic 
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