Originally Posted by aroc91
"We can't change it, so we should just let it happen"
You disappoint me. Our government needs a cleansing and it starts at the ballot box. People in this country need to stop being so apathetic. Between this and Germany's outrage over finding out that we've been spying on their chancellor for over 10 years and tons of other world leaders, it's only a matter of time.
I'm actually in the UK (and yes, I know the puppies GCHQ has been well trained by the NSA) but I don't think there's much point worrying over the fact that harmless data is being used by people who at worst, send an analyst program through, and decide there's nothing they need to care about.
Edit: and there's no way any sane party would tell them to stop.
Originally Posted by ejb222
Originally Posted by btupsx
That would have no effect, because I highly doubt the vast majority of elected officials know anything about these programs. More than likely they're as in the dark as we are/were. While each new revelation does not surprise me, it does sadden. No wonder the US was so desperate to get their hands on Snowden, PRISM was just the tip.
Why does it seem like no one is shocked then? Why is no one taking action to stop this or fire people in charge?
I bet all the leaders knew/suspected something like this was going on. And quite frankly they'd be stupid to tell them to stop, intelligence services are hardly going to crack down on the general public illegally torrenting the latest chinese cartoon or generic rubbish Holywood action movie. The public really shouldn't care about this.
Originally Posted by Clazman55
I think I'm going to join "If you don't have anything to hide, why are you worried?" camp. It would seem the ideal of "The government has no legitimate right to access my private information, so they can shove off!" has died in the majority of Americans.
A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have. -Gerald Ford Presidential address to a joint session of Congress (12 August 1974)
Nice quote. I don't know why people get so touchy about personal information. I don't see why they should care unless it has a direct negative impact on their lives, at which point I'll take it seriously. And if "it's about the principle" then I don't think there's much to argue against stopping terrorists without affecting the peoples' lives.
Edited by Moragg - 10/30/13 at 2:13pm