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Strictly speaking its 6W but the SDP (TDP under average workload) is 3W. I'd forgotten about the A4-1350 (Kabini) also with 3W SDP and 8W TDP. They lowered the GPU clocks as I suggested above.
It should be replaced next year with a new APU with enhanced Jaguar cores for higher clocks and a turbo implementation.
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Kabini power consumption is 15W compared to Bay Trail which is 3W.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Atom-Z3000-Series-Review-Bay-Trail-and-Silvermont-Arrive/Bay-Trail-Power-Co
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You've obviously haven't shopped around the web enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs84SYNS7Qg
ARM hasn't done a die shrink and when it does it'll still be better in performance. Twice the die size and 45% more performance over Intel's 14nm, ARM says next model to provide 30% over current @ 20nm.

Yeah....That's Clovertrail+ and it's at 32nm. That's based off the Saltwell core and PowerVR SGX. Basically, that technology is based off of 5-8 year designs. Saltwell's core performance beats the Cortex-A9 at the same given power level.

However, you must have missed the memo on Silvermont cores using IVB's GPU. This is Intel first redesign of Atom's microarchitecture EVER. Go read up...

ARM doesn't do die shrinks. They don't produce chips at all. There are no 14nm Atoms currently. The tick (process shrink) Airmont are due over 8 months from now.
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Kabini power consumption is 15W compared to Bay Trail which is 3W.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Atom-Z3000-Series-Review-Bay-Trail-and-Silvermont-Arrive/Bay-Trail-Power-Co

There's a point where low wattage becomes pointless as your average use of the tablet is way less than the drain. It's nice but if that's a sacrifice for performance I'll pass that and take the performance. For something twice Bay Trail's size it fairs well.
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Strictly speaking its 6W but the SDP (TDP under average workload) is 3W. I'd forgotten about the A4-1350 (Kabini) also with 3W SDP and 8W TDP. They lowered the GPU clocks as I suggested above.
It should be replaced next year with a new APU with enhanced Jaguar cores for higher clocks and a turbo implementation.

Didn't hear about the A4-1350 until you mention it, but for sure the A4-1350 looks very promising. Is there any benchmark? I did some searching and supposedly tablet running A4-1350 should be announced/released in October... The selling point of Kabini is the GPU performance. But if AMD get the A4-1350 right it could give the Bay Trail run for the money.
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Didn't hear about the A4-1350 until you mention it, but for sure the A4-1350 looks very promising. Is there any benchmark? I did some searching and supposedly tablet running A4-1350 should be announced/released in October... The selling point of Kabini is the GPU performance. But if AMD get the A4-1350 right it could give the Bay Trail run for the money.

For frabricating at 28nm it does a lot. I wish we could help AMD get 20nm or 14nm versions of their chips out so we can really compare.
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There's a point where low wattage becomes pointless as your average use of the tablet is way less than the drain. It's nice but if that's a sacrifice for performance I'll pass that and take the performance. For something twice Bay Trail's size it fairs well.

Well Bay Trail didn't sacrifice performance to the point where you couldn't watch HD videos on YouTube/Netflix to make it fit the 3W TDP package. BT holds pretty well against the high-end ARM SoC chips while maintaining decent battery life.
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Seems smart. FPGAs are usually the first parts to be made on a new node. This way Intel is taking business from the other fabs, while not allowing products they directly compete against to share their node advantage.
This info has been up on Altera's site @stratix 10 page for about a year now wink.gif
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