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As a Cloud Administrator, I've been building servers for quite a while. A new area I'm branching off into is minecraft servers, and just wanted to get some feedback on a build I'm putting together. I plan on colo'ing several of these. I've been running ESXi boxes on a very similar build to this, and they do exceedingly well.

Budget for these boxes would run around $1500, maybe a few hundred more.

The main thrust with Minecraft is single thread performance. According to Passmark's charts, the i7-4771 is only beaten out by the quite a bit more expensive E3-12xxv3's, so I think the price to performance ratio here is going to win out with this build. Prices are either Newegg or average eBay prices that I've actually bought before (like the RAID card. which I specifically picked for it's SSD benchmarks).

Minecraft Multicraft Box -- $1405
==================================
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4771 LGA 1150 -- $320
  • Mobo: ASRock B85 Pro4 LGA 1150 -- $80
  • Memory: DDR3-1600 -- $200
  • Power Supply: Corsair 750 -- $100
  • OS Drive: 128GB m4 Crucial SATA3 SSD -- $85
  • RAID: LSI 9260-8i 8 Port 6gb/s RAID Card w/BBU -- $160
  • RAID Drives: 4 x 300GB 15k SAS RAID10 (600GB total) -- $120
  • RAID Drives: 4 x 128GB m4 Crucial SATA3 SSD RAID10 -- $340
  • Chassis: Any (my colo takes 1U-4U or Desktop cases, all @ the same price)


Thanks everyone!
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Originally Posted by vintagedon View Post

As a Cloud Administrator, I've been building servers for quite a while. A new area I'm branching off into is minecraft servers, and just wanted to get some feedback on a build I'm putting together. I plan on colo'ing several of these. I've been running ESXi boxes on a very similar build to this, and they do exceedingly well.

Budget for these boxes would run around $1500, maybe a few hundred more.

The main thrust with Minecraft is single thread performance. According to Passmark's charts, the i7-4771 is only beaten out by the quite a bit more expensive E3-12xxv3's, so I think the price to performance ratio here is going to win out with this build. Prices are either Newegg or average eBay prices that I've actually bought before (like the RAID card. which I specifically picked for it's SSD benchmarks).

Minecraft Multicraft Box -- $1405
==================================
  • CPU: Intel Core i7-4771 LGA 1150 -- $320
  • Mobo: ASRock B85 Pro4 LGA 1150 -- $80
  • Memory: DDR3-1600 -- $200
  • Power Supply: Corsair 750 -- $100
  • OS Drive: 128GB m4 Crucial SATA3 SSD -- $85
  • RAID: LSI 9260-8i 8 Port 6gb/s RAID Card w/BBU -- $160
  • RAID Drives: 4 x 300GB 15k SAS RAID10 (600GB total) -- $120
  • RAID Drives: 4 x 128GB m4 Crucial SATA3 SSD RAID10 -- $340
  • Chassis: Any (my colo takes 1U-4U or Desktop cases, all @ the same price)


Thanks everyone!

You can start by sticking with two 500GB SSDs in raid 1. You do not need some crazy raid setup for minecraft.

Second, I would look at getting one of the newer 2011 board with 8 dimm slots and a cheap 2011 4 core cpu. Sure minecraft likes fast single core performance, but you are in the ultra overkill territory with what you have, plus from what I hear, more ram gives you a smoother game play on your server.

Your PSU is also overkill. I would find a nice 500 watt platinum PSU so that you don't eat up the power bill.
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As said PSU is way overkill

Does it matter if its semi or fully modular or modular at all?
Edited by shilka - 10/31/13 at 9:46am
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Is minecraft more so IPC dependent?
    
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This is what I'd recommend which takes into consideration everything that others have mentioned. This would be the most efficient use of your money and still maximize performance for Minecraft.

Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4771 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Pro4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($87.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($339.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1262.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-31 16:55 EDT-0400)
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All:

Thanks for all the suggestions. So here's some thoughts as to why I built this like I did, and keep the thoughts and suggestions coming.

Power Supply: This was actually one of my power supplies that was sitting around the house unused, but I do have a Gold certified 550W already sitting around that I can throw on this. Electricity usage doesn't matter at all, since this is being colo'ed in a data center. Modular could be none, semi- or fully.

RAID Setup: This probably was born out of my job; I'm a cloud admin and never provision anything unless it's RAID10 and resilient. Even my own colo'ed web servers are all RAID10. RAID10 also provides quite a performance boost over RAID1 and performs much better in RAID rebuilds if you lose a drive.

The price point per GB, however, stays around the same for the suggested 840 EVOs with less performance and resilience.

256GB RAID10 = 4 128GB SSDs @ $85 each = $340 / 256GB = $1.33/GB
500GB RAID1 = 2 500GB 840 EVO @ $340 each = $680 / 500GB = $1.36

Memory: Minecraft is definitely memory hungry and I couldn't go with only 16GB for the specific application that I need. The only reason I didn't go with a 8 slot DIMM board was RAM prices since the first of the year have been crazy. Last year, I was buying 32GB sets off eBay for $125. Currently, you're paying that for 16GB.

Pricing out a 2011 build with 64GB of RAM could be a possibility here, too, although I haven't specifically researched prices vs. single core performance yet in the 2011 socket range.

As Always,
Vint
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Which PSU do you have already?
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This one ... a Rosewill CAPSTONE-550-M

Only real flaw it has is lose voltage regulation
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