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why is Vengeance LP white (1.35V) so expensive?

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I'm looking at replacing a pair of white vengeance sticks that died with another set of the same, the cl9 lp low volt vengeance, but on eBay a single 8gb kit is going for over $150aud. I bought these no more than a year ago for $65aud per kit.
Why so expensive now? Anyone have any idea where I could look for a kit that's not ludicrously expensive?
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post #2 of 9
Memory prices in general have risen quite a bit since the last time you purchased memory - you're also looking at a "limited edition" product which will mean a higher asking price.
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Current RAM cost in general right now is a joke. More than double what it was two years ago.
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Huh bizarre, glad I'm not just going insane. I figured the white would be a bit harder to find as it was a limited run.. Looks like 24gb will have to do me for now frown.gif
In the meantime I'll keep my eyes peeled.
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Not strange at all, all memory manufacturers colluded to slow down production to increase the price of memory.
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Not strange at all, all memory manufacturers colluded to slow down production to increase the price of memory.

Proof of collusion?

Memory manufacturers have stated that they were shifting to server ECC DDR and mobile LPDDR. These are higher margin and higher demand markets. Of course, this would reduce the supply of more standard desktop RAM.
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Proof of collusion?

Memory manufacturers have stated that they were shifting to server ECC DDR and mobile LPDDR. These are higher margin and higher demand markets. Of course, this would reduce the supply of more standard desktop RAM.

Of course it would, but have you seen a flood of increased supply in either of those markets? Has LPDDR or ECC DDR gone down drastically in price? No. Do I have proof of collusion? No. Did the manufacturers learn their mistake about colluding behind closed doors from the last time they were caught? The brilliant thing they did, is they colluded openly about it, via press releases. They announced to the world they would lower production of those products because they weren't worth it in the margins, problem is every single one of them did it within about a month span.

Circling back, I would say it would be a sign of bad management if the executives weren't aiming to produce for higher margin markets to keep profits up, but none of the other markets show any signs of increased supply. You have to conclude the manufacturers just figured out a better way to price fix this time around.
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Of course it would, but have you seen a flood of increased supply in either of those markets? Has LPDDR or ECC DDR gone down drastically in price? No. Do I have proof of collusion? No. Did the manufacturers learn their mistake about colluding behind closed doors from the last time they were caught? The brilliant thing they did, is they colluded openly about it, via press releases. They announced to the world they would lower production of those products because they weren't worth it in the margins, problem is every single one of them did it within about a month span.

Circling back, I would say it would be a sign of bad management if the executives weren't aiming to produce for higher margin markets to keep profits up, but none of the other markets show any signs of increased supply. You have to conclude the manufacturers just figured out a better way to price fix this time around.

Virtually all of LPDDR sales are contractual with OEMs.
The vast majority of ECC DDR sales are also contractual with OEMs.

Basically, the companies agree on prices months/years in advance to reduce uncertainty.

The companies announce the shift late last year/earlier this years which predates the consumer price jumps in the last 6 months.

Like I said.... do you have proof?
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Virtually all of LPDDR sales are contractual with OEMs.
The vast majority of ECC DDR sales are also contractual with OEMs.

Basically, the companies agree on prices months/years in advance to reduce uncertainty.

The companies announce the shift late last year/earlier this years which predates the consumer price jumps in the last 6 months.

Like I said.... do you have proof?

As I stated, I don't have proof. Anecdotal evidence at best if really scrutinized, but the lack of any market shift in cost of products which consume high volumes of LPDDR or ECC DDR would suggest the prices aren't going down.

Clearly any company would love to procure components cheaper, without having to reduce the final price of their products. I just find it difficult to believe no price drops would be seen in the competitive marketplace if prices are dropping from higher available supply. It is just easier to believe that a bunch of companies with a history of collusion would be back at it again given the right circumstances.
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