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Whole system hangs? Okay, that is unusual and likely caused by something else.
 
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I would say that right now DOOM is a bad game to test for stability as it has been crashing a ton since the last update to bring in Vulkan support with 0xC0000005 (Access Violation). DOOM crashes when using OpenGL 4.5 or with Vulkan randomly with that same error.


Heaven 4.0 and Valley 1.0 are excellent programs to stress test your video card because I've never had them crash on me once unless I was overclocking my gpu too far.

3DMark Time Spy is also very stable and extremely stressful so that would be an excellent choice as well.


To stress test a particular game you have to be sure that the game is well optimized and runs stable as well as pushes your system to the limits before even concidering to use it as a stress test. If it's not well optimized then the game will not run very well and some may think that it's their hardware. If it's not already stable then some may think that the gpu is causing that game to crash when it's actually the game itself.

It's also a good idea to list the games that are crashing for you and what settings such as resolution ect and list them here and I will see if I have those games and test them with my stable rock solid GTX 780 ti. I only have a 1080P monitor so I'm limited to that.

For example I'm rock solid stable running both Heaven 4.0 and Valley 1.0 at 1080P tested 8 plus hours overnight. My settings are below: using nvidia driver 368.81 with DDU to clean out old drivers.

Heaven 4.0 scores at 65 fps

Preset:Custom
API:DirectX 11
Quality:Ultra
Tessellation:Extreme
Stereo 3D:Disabled
Multi-monitor:Disabled
Anti-Aliasing:x8
Full Screen:Checked
Resolution:1920X1080

Valley 1.0 scores at 74 fps

Preset:Custom
API:DirectX 11
Quality:Ultra
Stereo 3D:Disabled
Monitors:Single
Anti-Aliasing:x8
Full Screen:Checked
Resolution:1920X1080

Stable in Battlefield 4 in multiplayer 64 player server for hours with no crash.
Stable in 3DMark Avanced Edition running Fire Strike and Time Spy in a loop overnight.
Stable in Tomb Raider maxed out.

Crashes in DOOM with latest patch with 0xC0000005 (Access Violation) error, before was stable.
Crashes in Sims 4, latest patch resolved it. Played it for hours with no crash. Before would get a TDR and sometimes crash within minutes. That or the latest nvidia driver resolved it.

Take a look at all the people who are experiencing crashing in DOOM.
https://community.bethesda.net/community/doom/doom-2016/doom-16-support/doom-16-pc/pc-c
Edited by David20Player - 7/22/16 at 1:03pm
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Whole system hangs? Okay, that is unusual and likely caused by something else.

Yes, whole system freezes. It only happens when gaming, it doesn't happen with VRAY-RT-GPU mode for example, I guess it doesn't max-out memory or something else. PSU is almost new, an RM1000 which is enough for this card
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I created another bios that you can try inside the folder called option 3. In this bios I have lowered the actual boost clock speeds even further so the max the card will ever boost to is the default boost freqencies of 928 Mhz with a base boost of 875.5 Mhz. These are the frequencies that you will see on a stock GTX 780 Ti set by nvidia. Everything else has been left untouched including voltages, fan controls and power tables.

I'm afraid that if this bios doesn't resolve the crashing then you may have a bad card or something else in your system is causing the crash such as bad memory for example. With kepler sometimes increasing the voltage and power tables can make things even worse because the chip likes to stay cool. If you want to try the bios that's in the folder called option 1 with increased voltage and power tables then you are more than welcome to give it a shot. It may work for you although more voltage on my particular kepler chip made things worse.


http://www.mediafire.com/download/yxsc70usub7jy5w/Custom+Roms_1.zip

I flashed to Option1 (how many times can I rewrite the flash BTW? each time I have to downgrade to original BIOS then upgrade again). I'm checking Inspector but don't quite get it. P8, P5 and P2 states are straightforward but P0 state Works with offset settings, are they offsets from what P-state?

P2 shows a GPU clock of 549 which I guess would doublé to 1098 but card maxes out at 1020 haha, what gives?
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I flashed to Option1 (how many times can I rewrite the flash BTW? each time I have to downgrade to original BIOS then upgrade again). I'm checking Inspector but don't quite get it. P8, P5 and P2 states are straightforward but P0 state Works with offset settings, are they offsets from what P-state?

P2 shows a GPU clock of 549 which I guess would doublé to 1098 but card maxes out at 1020 haha, what gives?


I use Kepler Bios Tweaker version 1.27 to modify the bios and I use Ezflash to actually flash the bios all found on the first page of this thread. That is the reason why I have all of my bios's named x.rom because that's how Ezflash likes to have each rom named in order to flash.

I don't know how many times that you can flash the video card bios but I have been flashing and editing my own bios's for a little over 10 years now and haven't yet had an issue where the flash didn't take because I've flashed it too many times.

If you use Ezflash and choose option 3 then you will not have to flash the original bios each and every time.

I will provide a link to all the files that I use except for the bios's themselves as you already know how to obtain those. Simply place the x.rom bios that you would like to flash inside the Ezflash folder and double click on Ezflash. Choose option 3 and y to continue. You may have to press y one more time.

The Kepler Bios Tweaker is what I use to modify the bios. Normally I have two of these windows open with the original bios on one side and on the other side the one that I want to edit.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/fkr4gjaj5nc0cr0/Ez3flash_Kepler_bios_Tweaker.zip

This thread explains the P states better than I can.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1474548/kepler-bios-tweaker-1-27-basics-for-those-previous-users-who-want-to-know-what-it-means
Edited by David20Player - 7/22/16 at 10:18pm
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For anyone wanting to know my computer specs of my second computer that is stable in my games to maybe help narrow down what is causing issues with the GTX 780 Ti, I will type it all down below. We are both using NVidia driver 368.81 used with DDU to clean out older versions. Windows is fully updated and patched and no overclocking is done on my part.

Computer Specs:
Asus P6X58D Premium Motherboard (1501 Bios);
Intel Core i7 960 CPU @ 3.2GHz;
Crucial Ballistix Elite 12GB 1600 MHz 8-8-8-24-2T (CT2394237);
Gigabyte GTX 780 Ti (GV-N78TOC-3GD) (F4 Bios) Boost clocks to 1150 Mhz automatically
Acer 23 inch 1920X1080 5ms response time monitor (P236H);
Corsair CX 750M Power Supply;
Realtek ALC 889 Onboard Audio;
Western Digital 1 TB Hard Drive
Antec 1200 Full Sized Case;
Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit


My graphics card:

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4839#ov

Yesterday my daughter and I played Dead Island Definitive Edition for 4 hours in co-op mode with no one experiencing any crashing at all. My daughter was playing on the computer detailed above. We both were running at 1080P with all the in-game graphic settings turned up as high as they will go. The NVidia control panel is left at defaults as nothing was changed there. Also there's been no registry edits to adjust the TDR timeout time or anything like that.

My gaming computer has these specs:

Computer Specs:
Asus X99 Deluxe with 3101 BIOS
Intel Core i7-5930K
Corsair 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz 15-17-17-35 (CMK16GX4M4B3000C15 )
EVGA GTX 980 Superclocked (04G-P4-2983-KR) Boost clocks to 1404 Mhz automatically
Viewsonic 22 inch 1920X1080 2ms response time monitor (VX2252MH)
Corsair HX 1050 Watt Power Supply
Realtek ALC 1150 Onboard Audio
Western Digital 4 TB Hard Drive (WD4003FZEX)
NZXT Phantom 240 Mid-size case
Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit

If anyone would like to game with me and lives in the United States then please message me and I would love to get together and game on either Steam and or Origin.
Edited by David20Player - 7/23/16 at 10:15am
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I use Kepler Bios Tweaker version 1.27 to modify the bios and I use Ezflash to actually flash the bios all found on the first page of this thread. That is the reason why I have all of my bios's named x.rom because that's how Ezflash likes to have each rom named in order to flash.

I don't know how many times that you can flash the video card bios but I have been flashing and editing my own bios's for a little over 10 years now and haven't yet had an issue where the flash didn't take because I've flashed it too many times.

If you use Ezflash and choose option 3 then you will not have to flash the original bios each and every time.

I will provide a link to all the files that I use except for the bios's themselves as you already know how to obtain those. Simply place the x.rom bios that you would like to flash inside the Ezflash folder and double click on Ezflash. Choose option 3 and y to continue. You may have to press y one more time.

The Kepler Bios Tweaker is what I use to modify the bios. Normally I have two of these windows open with the original bios on one side and on the other side the one that I want to edit.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/fkr4gjaj5nc0cr0/Ez3flash_Kepler_bios_Tweaker.zip

This thread explains the P states better than I can.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1474548/kepler-bios-tweaker-1-27-basics-for-those-previous-users-who-want-to-know-what-it-means

Zup man,

I kept testing option1. I played Doom4, I passed the 15 minute mark and I thought "maybe it works now!", kept playing for another 15 minutes and then it crashed, but differently, not instant hangup but like it hang for some seconds (audio continued BTW) then system revived, crash again, revived again and I was able to open task manager and move things around but then it finally crashed for good. I restarted and launched Heaven benchmark and went to bed. I woke up and the mini LCD showed system crashed about 2 hours later.

I just flashed to option 3 and see what happens...
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Which Geforce GTX 780 Ti video card do you have? If you can send me your bios or send me a link for me to download it from https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/ or where ever then I can disable gpu boost on it if you would like. All you would have to do is re-flash your card with the bios that I make for you.

you've tried ti already mate smile.gif Same bsods with gpu boost disabled. Seems to me like NV made some changes to drivers to prevent us from good OC. But noone will spend time on old crappy 780 cards trying to make new bios frown.gif
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you've tried ti already mate smile.gif Same bsods with gpu boost disabled. Seems to me like NV made some changes to drivers to prevent us from good OC. But noone will spend time on old crappy 780 cards trying to make new bios frown.gif

Hello DC87,


Sorry that I forgot who I helped about 3 weeks ago. I should have looked back at our conversations then I would have realized. Anyways if you are still trying to get your MSI GTX 780 Ti working like it should then I have created two more custom bios's for you to try. This 3rd and 4th custom bios is a lot different than the first two that I made.


For example I left all of the voltage tables and power tables at their default values and only modified the boost states on custom 3 and disabled boost completely in custom 4. I also like the others that I've made allowed for the max fan speeds to be at 100% not like the original bios which is maxed at 85%.

Please give these a try and let me know how they work for you.


http://www.mediafire.com/download/puthqg76hw83pq7/MSI+GTX+780+Ti+Custom+Roms+3_4.zip
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Hiho again and thanks for any help. Still BSOD on warm boot with custom4 (with boost disabled)
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