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Is there anyway the custom 290x outperforms a 780 ti?

Some comparison between the two in my favorite FPS games. smile.gif

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition 4.6 Ghz OC / 2560 x 1440 Resolution

Asus DCUII OC AMD R9 290X - 1050 Mhz Core / 5.0 Gbps Memory (Reference 290X currently at $599.99 speculating this $639.99)
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BF4 62 FPS
Crysis 3 43 FPS

EVGA Reference 780TI - 875 Mhz Core 928 Mhz Boost / 7.0 Gbps Memory ($699.99)
Batman Origins / Assasins Creed Black Flag / Splinter Cell Blacklist bundle

BF4 64 FPS
Crysis 3 44 FPS


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Still waiting on the step up from my GTX 780. Submitted it 2nd week of November and I have gone from 220 in que down to only 146 in that time. rolleyes.gif
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Still waiting on the step up from my GTX 780. Submitted it 2nd week of November and I have gone from 220 in que down to only 146 in that time. rolleyes.gif

It seems to only move 10 places per week. I got mine 3 weeks after release, but I was number 13 when I initially signed up (I signed up almost immediately when it was available). Hopefully they will add more slots per week.
 
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It seems to only move 10 places per week. I got mine 3 weeks after release, but I was number 13 when I initially signed up (I signed up almost immediately when it was available). Hopefully they will add more slots per week.

Yeah, first week of November I was away on a cruise so I wasn't around to get it in early on the step-up! biggrin.gif
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Yikes dude, you can't be that dense. If it was a any single user building both systems that played on them both side by side then I would say that they could probably very accurately make a subjective comparison of the two systems. But you're telling me an equivalently "qualified" user to make that subjective comparison is one who owns one set up and reads a few sentences about one other user's experience on the internet about another set up of interest? That's essentially what you're suggesting.

It has nothing to do with me. It has nothing to do with my ability to build systems or set them up. I'm just a guy who wastes my money on computer parts and puts them together to pass time like the rest of you. I don't somehow think my systems are better for comparisons sake than others.

As I said, I value user experience here. I do not doubt the experiences each user described. I do not doubt that they experience exactly what they say they do. I do doubt, however, that the reason one sees a minimum of 40 and the other a minimum of 60 or whatever it was is entirely due to having a 6-core processor. That is all that I am saying.

Do I really need to make a list of variables that are very likely different across users systems that could cause differences when just discussing FPS on the internet?

Windows Version
Drivers
NVCP Settings
Windows Settings
Background Launch Processes
Browser Launch Condition
In-Game Settings
Internet Type/Quality
Servers
Pings of Servers
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Game Mode
Area of Map

All of those things are more than likely different, and all of those things will affect performance. Do I really need to waste a bunch of time creating graphs to prove that you will not see a huge increase in FPS by moving from quad to hex in BF4 online?

These are the two things originally said that I quoted when this discussion started:
That, quite frankly, is just a completely false and crap statement. I guess I should say this, if you have a "bad" time on a 4770K then you're going to have a "bad" time on a 6-core as well because your expectations are not aligned with reality. Bad time because of a single GPU, maybe, but not because of the CPU.
I don't even know what to say about this. I really don't. I basically see him suggesting that the guy with a 4770K gets 40 FPS and he gets over 100 FPS with a 4930K when he turns the settings down to match. He then goes on to explicitly state "That's the dif between 4930k and 4770k." That could simply not be more misinformed. I literally am a little speechless about that statement and a little sad that that information gets put out there, and then apparently defended. I really feel for the guy who spends his hard earned money based on garbage like that. A 150% FPS increase?! lachen.giflachen.gif

I'm not bantering back and forth on this topic anymore because it's gone off topic and become a detriment to the thread. It started as me just offering up my opinion on something I felt I could talk a little about, since I do own both systems in question, and all. I tried to be nice and suggest that the difference isn't that much when I see people talking completely retarded differences to attribute to the CPU's in question. Now it has just gotten to the point of arguing with a wall. I'm not sure if you guys are being serious or just trolling me .. it's to that point.

If you want to take two random users and their completely incomparable experiences and deduce conclusions from them, then be my guest.

Someone hurry, run out and drop $1400 on a RIVBE, 4930K, and memory and come back and tell me about your 150% FPS gains, lol. lachen.giflachen.gif

Well since you are speechless, don't comment anymore. You haven't contributed anything this to thread. Go start a new one claiming 4770k = 4930k in multi threaded applications and BF4.
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Well since you are speechless, don't comment anymore. You haven't contributed anything this to thread. Go start a new one claiming 4770k = 4930k in multi threaded applications and BF4.

I'd rather contribute nothing than to put out completely false information.

But you're right, everyone running Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell quads should immediately go upgrade 4930K/4960X. Especially those guys running a single GPU. That would be money way better spent than putting it towards, say, a second GPU.
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I'd rather contribute nothing than to put out completely false information.

But you're right, everyone running Sandy, Ivy, or Haswell quads should immediately go upgrade 4930K/4960X. Especially those guys running a single GPU. That would be money way better spent than putting it towards, say, a second GPU.

What false information? All I've stated is hexacore > quad core in BF4. I don't need a second gpu, my ti already maxes every game.
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What false information?
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The other guy is getting 40fps on 2xmsaa. Im getting 90fps max, 60 in intensive scenes and some dips when there are so many explosions you can't see anything anyway. Difference is, I'm running 150% res so downsampled 4k, which is muh more demanding than 2xmsaa. With 2xmsaa I get over 100fps average. That's the dif between 4930k and 4770k.

But yea, I'll bench the damn things tonight just to put an end to this mindless banter. Then someone coming to this thread with an existing CPU will be able to make an informed GPU decision on their own without reading utter fallacies like those quoted above.

Maybe then I'll have made contribution enough to be able to hang out here with the greats like yourself. rolleyes.gif
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But yea, I'll bench the damn things tonight just to put an end to this mindless banter. Then someone coming to this thread with an existing CPU will be able to make an informed GPU decision on their own without reading utter fallacies like those quoted above.

Maybe then I'll have made contribution enough to be able to hang out here with the greats like yourself. rolleyes.gif

In CPU intensive scenes, that is the difference. Since you haven't done any testing yourself, what you've said thus far is invalid.

In BF3, in some scenes my 3770k was at 99% load.
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LOL. How a 150% improvement is even theoretically possible, I don't know, but if you say so.

I'm going to do the testing because I'm very curious now, and then we can discuss the results in a civil manner. Testing will be done at 5760x1080 with 780 Ti SLI. One machine has a 4.8 Ghz 3770K with 2400 MHz memory, and the other a 4.8 Ghz 3930K with 2133 MHz memory. I'm going to go gather up some data and I'll be back later.
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