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The problem is your gpu is only at 60 percent usage. It should be higher then that. If your card isnt being utilized it will not stay at may clock. What are your rig specs? I havent played that game but I would try another game or synthetic bench and also over your cpu if it isnt already. There may be a bottleneck somewhere. We need some more Info you should fill out your rig in ur signature.

You did Increase your power/temp target right?

yup i did increase those.
well the game is horribly optimised for PC. is there anyway i can force the card to stay at the max clock while playing?
my rig is a
Asrock Z77 OC formula
i7 3770k @ stock
8GB ram
SSD: samsung 840 EVO
MSI 780 TI twin frozr Gaming.

i will put it in my signature smile.gif. and i will try overclocking my CPU to see if that helps. thank you.
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Originally Posted by Sheyster View Post

Did you hard mod the card to get more voltage for a higher OC? If not, why did you bother doing all this for only 1.212v Vcore?

Mainly because of noise. I can keep the fans at idle and the temps are 60c and below. I do wish I can bump it up a bit more.
    
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Originally Posted by Kedzie View Post

Mind linking each DC2 and TF4?

And how does Accelero Hybrid II - 120 compare according to you?

Well, I had the DC2 and ACX versions of a 780. I now have the TF4 780 Ti. But AFAIK, they are all the same...the EVGA and the Asus...780 vs 780 Ti cooler size and fan.

EVGA GTX 780 Ti SC ACX - 35 dbA, 72 C
"Under load, I did notice the two fans emitting a whine from time to time (depending on RPM), which appears to be due to air interference. Not much noisier, it is just of a higher frequency, which makes it noticeable."

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_780_Ti_SC_ACX_Cooler/31.html


Asus GTX 780 Ti OC DC2 - 39 dbA, 80 C
"The card basically emits the same noise levels as NVIDIA's reference board in both idle and load. These noise levels are quite acceptable for a card in this performance class, though I still find them a bit disappointing since I expected better from such a powerful-looking cooler. So it looks as though ASUS did what they could, but the cooler is simply not powerful enough for a quieter experience."

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_780_Ti_Direct_Cu_II_OC/29.html


MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming - 30 dbA, 78 C
"I'm impressed! MSI has managed to reduce the noise levels of the GTX 780 Ti by a huge amount. This makes the card quieter than most graphics cards on the market, no matter the performance class, or AMD or NVIDIA. If you are looking for a low noise, high-end option, this is the card to get.

All other GTX 780 Ti variants I've reviewed previously won't even come close to the noise levels of the MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming, which is almost as quiet during full-on gaming as other GTX 780 Tis in idle!"

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gaming/29.html

Ignore the noise rankings for Guru3D. They test on a bench and ALL GPU's hit 39 dbA, lol. TPU test INSIDE a case, from where your ears might be in relation to a case. Their numbers MIRROR my own findings as idle is 25 dbA and load is 30 dbA for me as well.

I'm not familiar w/ the AC cooler...but...yeah. This?

http://www.arctic.ac/us_en/accelero-hybrid-ii-120.html

That looks like one VERY GOOD cooler. I had a Galaxy GTX 580 that looked like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162073

I VERY much liked it. Just look @ the fans vs the the ACX fans. It's obvious the AC is going to destroy them in sound quality/noise/signature/airflow/etc. AC has been cooling GPU's for YEARS and that hybrid ii 120 looks sick, sick, sick! Too bad I'll never know cause MSI stuck a sticker on my card that said not to mess w/ it. mad.gif But I can't wait to read your impressions if you go w/ it! Maybe pair it w/ that $599 Gigabyte 780 Ti reference?

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GTX780-GDDR5-3GB-Graphics-GV-N78TD5-3GD-B/dp/B00GFZPE2S

Provided you don't have a CC that might charge you some tax!

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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

Lol, did you just recommend a TF4 card over a classy??? I'm guessing that you mean just for sound reasons? Because in every other area, the classy stomps on the TF4 and the DCII

*looks around*

Whoops. redface.gif

AFAIK, the Classy's are binned pretty nice and you have a much better shot @ 1300 on air according to EVGA_Jacob. I'm stuck @ 1210 and that's only in a couple benchmarks and a few games. I might end up lower later on! I would LOVE to have the Classy PCB, chip, ram, components, etc AND the TF4 cooler, but...well, oh well. The actual heatsink is bigger, but the Classy's fans are identical to the SC ACX IIRC. Only...

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Originally Posted by deafboy View Post

...one of my kingpins had a distinct whine.... the other one doesn't have the issue at all.

the Kingpins have a larger fan than the Classy/SC ACX IIRC.

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Originally Posted by JohnKimble View Post

...yup i did increase those.
well the game is horribly optimised for PC. is there anyway i can force the card to stay at the max clock while playing?
my rig is a
Asrock Z77 OC formula
i7 3770k @ stock
8GB ram
SSD: samsung 840 EVO
MSI 780 TI twin frozr Gaming.

i will put it in my signature smile.gif. and i will try overclocking my CPU to see if that helps. thank you.

Maybe I missed something...what game? You have a very similar setup...actually a better setup than mine and I'm ok...wait...what game, lol! I need to sleep!
Edited by Jodiuh - 3/24/14 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by JohnKimble View Post

is there anyway i can force the card to

You forgotten what i said to you already smile.gif ? Its only possible with an Bios flash wich disables Boost and forces your GPU to a steady frequency .
One thing you maybee could also try is : right click on your desk -> nvidia system control ( or whatever its called in english ) -> Manage 3D Settings -> Power Management Mode -> Prefer Maximum Performance . This should usually force your gpu to stay at max clock under 3D even there isent a need to .

You also need to understand this . Those Nvidia Cards are smarter then old Cards these days . Means if your card detects that you dont need much power in some applications it simply downclocks . I watched this in Source Engine Games ( HL2 , HL2 EP1 , HL2 EP2 , CS:S etc ) . Even if i set everything to absolout max with 16xAA , 16xAF , just max everything the card downclocks to 800 Mhz simply because there is no need to run at full speed since it gives me even at 800 Mhz 300 Frames in pretty much all Situations .
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Which card is the TF4?

I can tell you guys it is definitely luck of the draw with the Ti Classifieds. Mine starts artifacting above 1263MHz so I run it at 1200-1250 daily. This is with voltage at stock or 1.212 in Precision X. Adding a small voltage boost doesn't fix the artifacting and my card isn't even touching 65c.

My point is, if I could go back I would. I'd rather get a quieter card. The performance difference from say.. 1100MHz to 1250MHz is literally 6-8FPS in my experience. The card is loud and the fans whine at certain speeds. My 780 DCUII was whisper quiet and cooled pretty well too.

I can't buy the MSI because I don't like the way the cooler looks. So IF I end up selling this card, I'm buying a Ti DCUII. I think a 2 month old Ti Classy could sell for 700 easy right?
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The Ti DC2 is a massive failure. High power consumption across multiple reviews, high temps, high noise. It requires 2 8 pins AFAIK and Guru couldn't OC it any further than the other cards.

Yes, that's right...the TF4 is...MSI!

I'm w/ ya on aesthetics though. I have no window in my case, but everything is color matching. I had an issue w/ the MSI's looks as well, but the more I read up on it, the more I came to realize that in the end...sonics/efficiency > pretties.

IIRC, there's a Matrix Asus w/ a beefier PCB and cooler that might do the trick. Also, it's possible your 780 DC2 was using the conservative fan curve and that might be why it was quieter. I compared them all @ equal RPM's and the MSI IS quieter and keeps the card cooler. It's just a much better cooler IMO.

Edit: Personally, I would not pay near $700 for a below avg clocking 780 Ti that makes a racket and doesn't cool as well as it should. But good luck! Sorry about the EVGA, but glad to hear more folks thumping their fists. Hopefully EVGA will use a fan that doesn't...blow...lol.
Edited by Jodiuh - 3/24/14 at 6:44pm
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How well does the TF4 OC?
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i can't find any decent GPU coolers that either aren't sold out or don't have an enormous backplate. What do?
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Originally Posted by Kold View Post

How well does the TF4 OC?

I have only had one and I'm @ 1210 right now. The card has some coil whine, but I can't hear it when I'm in my chair over my case fans. 4 1200 RPM and 1 1500 RPM. I run the GPU @ 1900 RPM. This is all less than the ACX was @ stock settings...well, the 780 ACX.

Is there a 780 Ti "MULTIPLE Game & Benchie STABLE" OC list w/

-GPU
-Room Temp
-Load Temp
-Max Fan RPM
-AB or PX Boosted Clocks

Yet?
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Originally Posted by Kold View Post

How well does the TF4 OC?

Sorry for double post, but I wanted to make sure that you got the quote reply noti and that others could see what Unknown on H has done!

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1040719634&postcount=8

Sounds like you're SLI, will this fit for you?

@Kold
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