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I've said it before, but I'll say it again, playing the waiting game isn't the best idea, there will ALWAYS be SOMETHING NEW in the pipeline. Just do it! Also, I'm betting we won't see a maxwell 800 series this year, and if we do, it won't be till November/December, just my 2cents.gif

I was more concerned with the reference cooler more than the actually performance of the card, and the fact that it's Gigabyte and not EVGA which I usually tend to purchase.
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I was more concerned with the reference cooler more than the actually performance of the card, and the fact that it's Gigabyte and not EVGA which I usually tend to purchase.
Yeah, gigabyte hasn't been doing that well with their 700 series cards IMHO. I've had zero issues with my reference cooler cards, if that helps you any. But I'm also not sensitive to noise either.
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What's up guys!

Do you have recommendations on the available aftermarket heatsinks?

I was thinking of MSI's twin frozr or EVGA ACX as they are well regarded by their owners, but then I found this:

MSI Gaming

EVGA SC

They seem crazy hot! Very very hot! Is that normal anyway?

The reference heatsink is actually very good, particularly because it dumps the hot air outside the case, rather than inside, causing the rest of your machine to run hotter. If you're not going to upgrade to water cooling you are at a serious risk of wasting your time and money on an upgrade.
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The reference heatsink is actually very good, particularly because it dumps the hot air outside the case, rather than inside, causing the rest of your machine to run hotter. If you're not going to upgrade to water cooling you are at a serious risk of wasting your time and money on an upgrade.
So long as his case has adequate airflow, that is complete nonsense. My MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming is oc'd to 1264 MHz, and during heavy gaming sessions (BF4 MP) never gets over 68°C with fans around 50%. Even though it dumps hot air into my case, my oc'd 3770k @ 4.5 GHz never gets over 45°C. These are very reasonable temps (obviously ambient temps play a role, my room temp is around 25°C), and not a drop of water in sight.....
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So long as his case has adequate airflow, that is complete nonsense. My MSI GTX 780 Ti Gaming is oc'd to 1264 MHz, and during heavy gaming sessions (BF4 MP) never gets over 68°C with fans around 50%. Even though it dumps hot air into my case, my oc'd 3770k @ 4.5 GHz never gets over 45°C. These are very reasonable temps (obviously ambient temps play a role, my room temp is around 25°C), and not a drop of water in sight.....

Gaming doesn't push things particularly hard. I have an 780Ti with a BIOS that is undervolted and has the TDP boosted to 120%. Mining gets it to about 92-93C with fan at 4200rpm (100% on practically all BIOSes), with similar room temperature. That's with huge case (Armorsuit) with a full complement of fans.

Even with the 780Ti venting outside the case, the slightly OC-ed 6-core Xeons (X5650s@3.33GHz) without insanely high voltages running flat out with decent heatsinks get to 90C which is way, way outside their spec.

Trust me - you don't want hot air venting inside the case. You're just not pushing your machine anywhere near it's limits for it to matter. I have a water cooling kit for the CPUs waiting to be fitted this weekend.
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Heyyyy, guys!

What's with the bad vibes in here? Can't we all just cool down a peg and start replying to posts without the extra teaspoon of snot? There is NO reason whatsoever for the type of tone that's echoing around here now. I also jumped from my seat when I read that post about all the BIOSes being "bogus" but just take things for that they are before you raise the tone, please? It would upset my PTSD a whole lot less smile.gif



Hugz and waffles, riiiite?
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Gaming doesn't push things particularly hard. I have an 780Ti with a BIOS that is undervolted and has the TDP boosted to 120%. Mining gets it to about 92-93C with fan at 4200rpm (100% on practically all BIOSes), with similar room temperature. That's with huge case (Armorsuit) with a full complement of fans.

Even with the 780Ti venting outside the case, the slightly OC-ed 6-core Xeons (X5650s@3.33GHz) without insanely high voltages running flat out with decent heatsinks get to 90C which is way, way outside their spec.

Trust me - you don't want hot air venting inside the case. You're just not pushing your machine anywhere near it's limits for it to matter. I have a water cooling kit for the CPUs waiting to be fitted this weekend.
Wow. My apologies, I didn't realise that we all had to push our hardware to a point that it "mattered". Not everyone here is a hardcore miner, I'm pretty sure the guy asking about these cards would have mentioned mining if that was a factor....
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Wow. My apologies, I didn't realise that we all had to push our hardware to a point that it "mattered". Not everyone here is a hardcore miner, I'm pretty sure the guy asking about these cards would have mentioned mining if that was a factor....

You are missing the important point - optimizing for a light load is at best ill advised, because the load profile changes over time. Game updates come out with code to get more performance out of hardware, which makes the hardware run harder. Driver updates come out that push the hardware harder by overriding some rendering kernels with more optimized ones. Have you never heard of all those stories of "new drivers killing GPUs"? that surface every once in a while? That's largely caused by either marginal hardware or poorly optimized and tested setups being pushed beyond what somebody's idea of "stable" is.

It's not about mining - it's about making sure that you don't get nasty surprises. Optimize for the worst case scenario and you are likely to save yourself a lot of trouble in the future. If there is a theoretical (let alone real world implemented) load that can push things beyond the cooling capabilities, then surely making sure you optimize to stay within the cooling capabilities even with such a load is just common sense.
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Heyyyy, guys!
Hugz and waffles, riiiite?

Hugz and waffles indeed. smile.gif

Apologies - my post clearly came across harsher than I meant it.
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You are missing the important point - optimizing for a light load is at best ill advised, because the load profile changes over time. Game updates come out with code to get more performance out of hardware, which makes the hardware run harder. Driver updates come out that push the hardware harder by overriding some rendering kernels with more optimized ones. Have you never heard of all those stories of "new drivers killing GPUs"? that surface every once in a while? That's largely caused by either marginal hardware or poorly optimized and tested setups being pushed beyond what somebody's idea of "stable" is.

It's not about mining - it's about making sure that you don't get nasty surprises. Optimize for the worst case scenario and you are likely to save yourself a lot of trouble in the future. If there is a theoretical (let alone real world implemented) load that can push things beyond the cooling capabilities, then surely making sure you optimize to stay within the cooling capabilities even with such a load is just common sense.
Whilst this is true to a point, my point was that you cannot make blanket statements like 'unless you go with water cooling you are wasting your time', or to suggest that non-reference coolers are no good. It might be valid for your circumstances, but that does not mean that it holds true for everyone else.....
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