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IF you have a short circuit on the +12V and IF the SCP (Short Circuit Protection) doesn't catch it! wink.gif
As i stated: "Your choice! Quality PSU´s are all good whether being Single or Multi Rail!"
If someone wants to feel safe by their own admission get 2 multi rail PSUs with ADD2PSU linking them when OC'ing!
If someone wants to feel safe they have no business in OC! Stay stock! This is OCN! We are all overclockers! OC'ing is in our blood, we all know the dangers right? thumb.gif
If someone wants to feel safe... buy a dog and don't get out of the house but still you might trip over your PSU and hit your head and die! tongue.gif


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There is such a thing as mitigating risk, and doing so is a good thing. Circuits have capacitance and this will affect the length of the discharge even when OCP kicks in. Depending on how the PSU is designed (some, mindbogglingly, have all the rails soldered together internally), this can help limit the damage. Much as I hate car analogies, an appropriate one would be to say that just because you modified a car for racing doesn't mean you drive it around the race track with no seat belt on. Not if you aren't after a Darwin award at least.

Unfortunately, PSUs increasingly come with fewer rails because it is beyond many typical users to understand about multiple rails and they just send the PSU back when it starts tripping out due to a single rail overload. So the choice may not be there for much longer. My 6 year old CM M1000 has 6 12V rails. My 10 month old CM M2 M1500 has 2. My 1 week old EVGA G2 1300 has 1.
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Should it be possible to enable 1.3v vcore on reference EVGA 780ti's before I waste any more time trying to figure it out?

followed this method http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18545210 but AB doesn't give me voltage control either before or after.

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Should it be possible to enable 1.3v vcore on reference EVGA 780ti's before I waste any more time trying to figure it out?

followed this method http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18545210 but AB doesn't give me voltage control either before or after.

Thanks

No, only with hard mod by soldering a resistance and thus voiding warranty! redface.gif


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There is such a thing as mitigating risk, and doing so is a good thing. Circuits have capacitance and this will affect the length of the discharge even when OCP kicks in. Depending on how the PSU is designed (some, mindbogglingly, have all the rails soldered together internally), this can help limit the damage. Much as I hate car analogies, an appropriate one would be to say that just because you modified a car for racing doesn't mean you drive it around the race track with no seat belt on. Not if you aren't after a Darwin award at least.

Unfortunately, PSUs increasingly come with fewer rails because it is beyond many typical users to understand about multiple rails and they just send the PSU back when it starts tripping out due to a single rail overload. So the choice may not be there for much longer. My 6 year old CM M1000 has 6 12V rails. My 10 month old CM M2 M1500 has 2. My 1 week old EVGA G2 1300 has 1.

Like my grandma used to say: "son, if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen"
There is risk about everything in life, being life a risk since the day we are born, understanding the risk and accept it makes the difference!
If i spend $5000 with my RIG and OC it beyond the manufacturers defaults, im understanding and accepting that risk, that why in every guide i make, i always issue a warning about the possible consequences!
Not long ago a user came in here with the promise of unlocking 780Ti voltage, (i dont doubt his willingness to help but he was very presumptuous of his knowledge and seemed he was looking for other than help, instead of asking for help he assumed he was all knowing) as me and others before already had looked into it (as some of us are engineers and programmers), i accessed his info and warned about the possible consequences, he didnt like my remarks and told me to go back to school! tongue.gif
I issued a warning still, he didnt! Results, 1 Titan black burned and the 780 Ti voltage still locked!
As we are a community WE have to STICK together and learn TOGETHER! That way we can move forward! thumb.gif

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No, only with hard mod by soldering a resistance and thus voiding warranty! redface.gif


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I'm not adverse to trying depending how extensive it is... got any guides?
 
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Originally Posted by OccamRazor View Post

Like my grandma used to say: "son, if you cant stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen"
There is risk about everything in life, being life a risk since the day we are born, understanding the risk and accept it makes the difference!
If i spend $5000 with my RIG and OC it beyond the manufacturers defaults, im understanding and accepting that risk, that why in every guide i make, i always issue a warning about the possible consequences!
Not long ago a user came in here with the promise of unlocking 780Ti voltage, (i dont doubt his willingness to help but he was very presumptuous of his knowledge and seemed he was looking for other than help, instead of asking for help he assumed he was all knowing) as me and others before already had looked into it (as some of us are engineers and programmers), i accessed his info and warned about the possible consequences, he didnt like my remarks and told me to go back to school! tongue.gif
I issued a warning still, he didnt! Results, 1 Titan black burned and the 780 Ti voltage still locked!
As we are a community WE have to STICK together and learn TOGETHER! That way we can move forward! thumb.gif

Cheers

Ed

(Team skyn3t)

Maybe your attitude is colouring your statement, but are you really advocating taking unnecessary risks when reasonable mitigation is easy to achieve at the expense of a little inconvenience of having to know what one is doing? Seriously?

Are you saying the Titan voltage mod posted on hwbot doesn't work for the 780/780Ti? That surprises me, but I never saw the point of pushing ridiculous voltages. I find undervolting yields better results. Then again, I run air cooled.
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No, only with hard mod by soldering a resistance and thus voiding warranty! redface.gif

Arguably so does flashing a custom BIOS. What was that about heat and kitchen earlier? :-)
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Both of you guys please PM me the details of your RIGS, problems and your bios so i can help you to get to the bottom of this, lantern48 fill your SIG with your RIG, so me and others are able to see your RIG setup and facilitate helping you later! thumb.gif

Cheers all

Ed

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Done. And thank you very much for trying to help. Much appreciated.
Edited by lantern48 - 3/30/14 at 1:59pm
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Maybe your attitude is colouring your statement, but are you really advocating taking unnecessary risks when reasonable mitigation is easy to achieve at the expense of a little inconvenience of having to know what one is doing? Seriously?

Are you saying the Titan voltage mod posted on hwbot doesn't work for the 780/780Ti? That surprises me, but I never saw the point of pushing ridiculous voltages. I find undervolting yields better results. Then again, I run air cooled.

Do you know you are on OCN right? Any type of OC involves risk, so i understand you are defending your previous statements about safety when OC´ing either mining/gaming/benching and i think that is a good idea for those that dont want to overvolt and OC but i have seen Titans and 780Ti (Titan thread and 780Ti thread) dying with low voltage too when mining!
Unnecessary risks as you say WE all take to make better gaming through out graphics card history, with Titan/780 you can get 30% more performance over stock when overvolting, if you had being here in the last year since the Titan launch you would have witness it first hand, hundreds of people here Oc´ing and overvolting their cards, some more, some less but all happy with their results!
So, yes, we overvolt with the knowledge that it might kill the card! feel free to ask around, people will tell you the same!
As you should know Titan/780 and 780Ti are very different in PWM and the only way to increase voltage on the 780Ti is by soldering a resistance, thus increasing voltage and has to be measured by a multi meter! If you dont believe this just ask around or try yourself to make a mod that increases voltage by software!
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Arguably so does flashing a custom BIOS. What was that about heat and kitchen earlier? :-)

EVGA honours warranty even with flashed cards, some others dont! Flashing DOES NOT KILL CARDS! Its always reversible!
Its the same as above, if someone dont want to OC just stay away from possible ill results! thus the kitchen analogy...
Dont pick a fight with me, instead work with me and the rest of the guys here in the threads helping newcomers and folks that need help with their problems! thumb.gif


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I'm not adverse to trying depending how extensive it is... got any guides?

Ill ask my Brother, i think he made one! thumb.gif

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